The China Study, Wheat, and Heart Disease; Oh My!

2 09 2010

(Not only is this woefully, frustratingly, absurdly belated, but it’s also not yet finished. But I hate being a blog tease, so here’s part one!)

If you’ve been following along with the previous China Study entries (and the wild drama that ensued), you know that I’ve been promising an entry on wheat for a while now, mostly because this little snippet snagged so many eyes:

Correlation between wheat flour and coronary heart disease: 0.67

That’s a value straight from the original China Study data. Could the “Grand Prix of epidemiology” have accidentally uncovered a link between the Western world’s leading cause of death and its favorite glutenous grain? Is the “staff of life” really the staff of death? Bwah ha ha.

Damning as it seems, a single unadjusted correlation isn’t enough to make that leap. Actually, nothing in this post will be enough to make that leap, because A) it’s epidemiological data and not a controlled study, and B) correlation isn’t causation anyhow. You know the drill.

So my goal here isn’t to prove anything about wheat. Mostly, I want to see if I can find a confounder that’s creating a false association between wheat and heart disease in the China Study data. Something wheat-eating regions have in common that makes them more susceptible to ticker troubles. Because really, folks, this is serious business:

And when we pluck out the wheat variable from the 1989 China Study II questionnaire—which has more recorded data—and consider potential nonlinearity, the outcome is even creepier:

Wowza! By the way, wheat flour also correlates significantly with hypertensive heart disease and stroke, but I’m mainly going to look at coronary heart disease in this post. (And although wheat looks like it could have a nonlinear relationship with heart disease, with the highest wheat eaters having disproportionately steeper rates than non-wheat eaters, I’m going to treat it as linear for the sake of this analysis. That way, the worst that’ll happen is we’ll underestimate the potential effect of wheat, which—for now—is better than overestimating it.)

Since I’m not trying to dissect our friend Campbell’s claims anymore, I’ll be using the China Study II data (from 1989) because it recorded more descriptive variables about diet and blood samples.* And because it’s already available online. (Not that I don’t love typing thousands of numbers onto my computer by hand. Three cheers for data-entry-induced carpal tunnel!)

*Quickie note: If you want to play with the China Study numbers yourself, I recommend not just using the “all vascular diseases” variable, because it includes rheumatic heart disease—a condition spawned by rheumatic fever and generally unrelated to diet. Lumping diseases with different etiologies together dilutes the strong correlations you can find by looking at each disease independently. Try checking out stroke (M065 STROKE), ischaemic heart disease (M063 IHD), and/or hypertensive heart disease (M062 HYPTENS)  along with all vascular diseases (M059 ALLVASC).

Here’s the problem with looking at wheat and heart health. Along with correlating pretty darn strongly with heart disease, wheat-eating regions boast  a number of other factors possibly involved as well—some as protective agents and some as causative. For instance, wheat flour correlates significantly and inversely with:

  • Plasma folate concentrations (and consequently, homocysteine status)
  • Fish intake and DHA levels
  • Yearly green vegetable consumption
  • HDL cholesterol
  • Vitamin C intake

And it correlates significantly and positively with:

  • Height, weight, and BMI
  • Blood pressure
  • Latitude (as a possible marker for vitamin D status)
  • Yearly milk intake
  • Polyunsaturated fatty acid intake

Since all of these variables also associate (inversely or positively) with heart disease, it’s possible they could be confusing the “0.67″ figure we’ve cited for wheat. Could some other, non-grain component of the wheat eaters’ diets predispose these folks to heart disease?

On the bright side, China’s wheat eaters are less likely to drown than the wheat-shunners (r = -0.68 for the youngsters under 34). Maybe they’re all buoyant from celiac bloat.

And in case you’re wondering, here are some heart disease risk factors (the ones Conventional Nutritional Wisdom likes to toss around) that don’t positively correlate with wheat. That means we probably can’t blame ‘em for wheat’s dirty deeds. Out of curiosity, though, I’ll still include them in some of my models just to see how they behave in relation to wheat with heart disease.

  • All meat intake (r = -0.35)
  • Red meat intake (r = -0.30)
  • Animal fat intake (r = -0.35)
  • Saturated fat intake (r = -0.40)
  • Total animal protein intake (r = -0.27)
  • Total fat intake (r = -0.43)
  • Fat as a percentage of total calories ( r = -0.41)
  • Total cholesterol (r = -0.05)
  • Apolipoprotein B (r = 0.02)
  • Daily alcohol intake  (r = -0.37)

Mostly, what I’m looking for is a little somethin’-somethin’ that both wheat flour and heart disease have in common. A shared variable that could be slyly—and wrongfully—framing wheat as our heart-harming villain.

So how do we untangle all these variables? I’m using two methods: multiple regression analysis and stratification. Multiple regression is a handy way of looking at two or more variables and seeing how each one behaves when the others are held constant, and stratifying data can work similarly by divvying up data into groups that share or exclude a certain variable. (For the stats junkies out there, I’m using ordinary least squares for the regressions, and I’m running each model two times: once with the data as-is, and once with any non-normally-distributed dependent variables transformed (via natural log) for more reliable statistical significance testing. I’m also checking for linearity between the variables before creating each model, since a nonlinear relationship will be underestimated with linear regressions.)

And for anyone not familiar with statistics terminology, here’s a really quick rundown of what you need to know to understand the numbers in this post:

  • r = the Pearson product-moment correlation coefficient  between two variables. It can range from -1 to 1. When it’s zero or close to zero, there’s pretty much no relationship between the variables. When it’s a negative number (like r = -0.50), there’s an inverse relationship between the variables, meaning one increases as the other decreases. When it’s a positive number (like r = 0.50), there’s a positive relationship between the variables, meaning they increase and decrease hand-in-hand. The closer to -1 or 1 r is, the stronger the association. R can never prove cause and effect, though—it only indicates an relationship of some sort.
  • beta = the standardized coefficient for each variable in the multiple regressions I’ll  be running. This is a lot like r, in the sense that it shows how well a specific variable is predicting the outcome (eg, heart disease) and also ranges from -1 to 1. But in the case of beta, we’re also controlling for the effects of other variables, so this number tends to be more accurate than r.
  • p = the probability that our results are just a fluke. P indicates how likely it is that we’d get a value of a test statistic that’s as extreme (or more extreme) as the one we have based on chance alone. Having a p-value of less than 0.05 indicates a high level of significance and means that our results are pretty sound. The lower the number, the more confident we can be that we’ve got something legit.
  • r-squared = percent of variance explained. This number shows what proportion of the outcome (eg, heart disease) can be explained by the variables in a particular model (eg, wheat and HDL cholesterol). The higher the number, the more successfully the variables are predicting the outcome. (“Predicting” is a misleading way of putting it, though, since we still aren’t looking at proof of cause-and-effect—only a relationship.)

Preliminary theories

It’s no secret that I’m less-than-enamored with wheat. We parted ways long ago (he got me allergic and then ran off with some floozy—classy, eh?). Nonetheless, I don’t like pointing fingers where they shouldn’t be pointed, so I’ll entertain some alternative theories that could explain wheat’s apparent association with heart disease.

1. Folate deficiency. In northern China, about 40% of the population qualifies as folate deficient (compared to only 6% in the south)—a geographical trend that corresponds nicely with wheat consumption. Being low in folate tends to elevate homocysteine, which—you guessed it—is an independent risk factor for heart disease. So maybe it’s not the wheat itself causing mischief, but the fact that low-vegetable, wheat-centered diets in China tend to breed folate deficiency and hike up homocysteine.

On top of that, in the China Study II data, wheat flour positively correlates (r = 0.30, p<0.05) with childhood death from neural tube defects—a category of birth defects often related to folate deficiency. Although the China Study data didn’t document homocysteine levels (darnit), the 1989 data did measure plasma folate. That means we’ll be able to test whether folate levels could be obscuring the true relationship between wheat and heart disease.

2. Vitamin D deficiency. For the most part, wheat-eating regions in China are in the northern half of the country—a hotspot for vitamin D deficiency, which is strongly linked to heart disease. Given the pretty convincing correlation between latitude and heart disease mortality, it’s possible that vitamin D is playing a role in this mess. Are the wheat-eaters merely suffering from low levels of the ol’ Sunshine Vitamin due to their unfortunate geographical placement, and getting more heart disease as a result? Sure seems possible.

3. Low intake of DHA. In an earlier publication, Campbell and his crew already determined that fish and DHA intake appears protective against heart disease in the China Study data. Not too surprising, since DHA reduces blood viscosity and can lower other factors associated with heart disease (like triglyceride levels). And considering wheat-eating regions don’t consume much seafood (r = -0.43 for daily fish intake), perhaps DHA deficiency—rather than wheat consumption itself—is to blame for higher rates of heart disease.

4. Combo-abombo. Maybe a mix of low folate, vitamin D deficiency, and DHA deficiency are swirling together into a doomful vortex—some horrible, Bermuda-Triangle-esque zone of heart disease. A zone that just happens to overlay areas of wheat consumption.

5. Unexpected mystery variable. If none of the above can explain the wheat-heart disease link, we’ve still got a verdant jungle of China Study variables to plow through. So plow we shall. I’ll try running a number of common-sense models to see if I can find something that explains heart disease better than wheat alone.

Multiple regression results

Folate. Ah, theory numero uno! Like wheat, folate has a strong, statistically significant correlation with heart disease (r = -0.40, p<0.001), so what happens when we run a model using both folate and wheat as exposures? Initially, it looks like wheat clobbers folate as a predictor (beta = 0.59, p<0.001 versus beta = -0.06, p = 0.39)—which would suggest that, although China’s wheat-eaters tend to have lower folate levels, folate deficiency itself isn’t enough to explain the link with heart disease.

But I’m not ready to dismiss this one just yet. As often happens with plasma measurements and health conditions, folate may have a nonlinear relationship with heart disease—which means multiple regressions (of the linear variety) won’t show the full picture. Indeed, when I make a scatter plot for folate levels and coronary heart disease, it looks like a bit of a curve emerges, with folate being most strongly associated with heart disease when the county average dips below 10 micrograms per liter (or thereabouts). Above that, the correlation is far less dramatic.

So how do we deal with this statistical monkey wrench? For starters, I tried transforming the folate data to make it more suitable for linear regressions, but that didn’t do diddly squat to the results: The numbers were beta = 0.58, p<0.001 for wheat and beta = -0.06, p = 0.31 for folate. So then I tried stratifying the data based on “low” and “high” folate levels (10 or less micrograms/liter versus 10.1 or more micrograms/liter), but both subgroups continued showing wheat as strongly and significantly correlated with heart disease while folate was off the hook.

Just to cover my bases (and because I’m a stubborn son-of-a-gun), I kept playing  with the numbers for a while longer to see if I could excavate anything new. Nope. Bottom line: It looks like wheat is predictive of heart disease whether or not folate levels are low, whereas folate is mostly predictive of heart disease only in the presence of high levels of wheat consumption.

So, theory #1 doesn’t pan out. Bugger. But bear in mind, we’re using folate mostly as a marker for elevated homocysteine, so these results don’t mean that homocysteine itself isn’t playing a role. Other causes of high homocysteine, such as B12 deficiency, weren’t documented in the China Study data. So this is an issue that’ll have to remain annoyingly unresolved. Another bugger!

Onto the next theory: latitude. Could the folks living in northern wheat-eating regions have lower vitamin D levels, leading to more heart problems—and creating a false link between wheat and cardiovascular disease? I admit, this was my favored theory after folate, but it ain’t holdin’ water. When I run wheat and latitude together as potential contributors to heart disease, wheat remains strongly predictive (beta = 0.65, p<0.001), while latitude diminishes (beta = -0.01, p=0.96). It’s pretty clear that the raw correlation between heart disease and latitude (which is 0.43, p<0.01) is just an echo of the relationship between heart diseases and wheat-eating regions, which are typically northern.

Okay, so that’s two strikes for Denise’s heart disease theories. What about fish and DHA? Are the wheat eaters suffering due to their fishless (and low-in-DHA) diets rather than from wheat itself? Alas, it doesn’t look likely. When I run these things together as exposures for heart disease, wheat stays strongly predictive (beta = 0.68, p<0.001) while the fishies do not (beta = 0.08, p = 0.47). Likewise, DHA teeters out into statistical insignificance (beta = 0.06, p = 0.30) when used in a model with wheat.

(Wait, I know what you’re thinking! “Why does it look like fish and DHA contribute positively to heart disease?” It’s because many of the fish-eating regions are more industrialized, and—in the absence of wheat—the fish-heart disease relationship is confounded by other factors like more desk work, more smoking (especially manufactured cigarettes), less physical activity, more vegetable oil consumption, and so forth. When we add some more variables to the model that take away the “city effect” associated with fish—such as apo-B, tobacco use, or percentage of the population employed in agriculture—then both fish and DHA turn inverse again. Although wheat, it should be mentioned, stays rock-steady in its high coefficient and statistical significance.)

Other stuff

Milk. Is moo juice a cardiovascular foe obscuring the relationship between wheat and heart disease? Probably not, according to the data—which isn’t surprising, given how few counties even drink the stuff. When running daily milk intake alongside wheat intake, wheat keeps its positive correlation (beta = 0.67, p<0.001) and milk actually turns a bit inverse, though not significantly so (beta = -0.07, p=0.47). No model shows a significant association between milk and cardiovascular disease, so I’m crossing this one off the list of potential confounders.

Blood pressure, BMI, corn, millet, sorghum, rice, added animal fat, added vegetable fat, total fat, total animal food, total carbs, total protein, percent of calories from animal protein, and all the smoking/tobacco variables I tried became statistically nonsignificant (in relation to heart disease) when thrown into a model with wheat.

Income is positively associated with heart disease when wheat is held constant, but it still doesn’t put a ding in wheat’s association with heart disease.

Models with more variables

So apparently comparing wheat + one other independent variable isn’t enough to explain the Wheat Effect. Not even a little bit. But maybe, just maybe, a bigger combination of variables will do the trick. Perhaps wheat-eating regions just host a collection of heart-harming factors (low folate, low vitamin D, low EFAs, and so forth) that, together, are more powerful predictors of disease than the variable wheat.

Here are the variables I’m interested in looking at. Some could be causative and some could be preventative:

  • Wheat consumption
  • Corn consumption
  • Millet consumption
  • Rice consumption
  • Total blood cholesterol
  • LDL cholesterol
  • HDL cholesterol
  • Apolipoprotein-B
  • DHA levels
  • Folate levels
  • Latitude
  • Added vegetable oil
  • Blood pressure
  • Weight
  • BMI
  • Total fat intake
  • Total monounsaturated fat intake
  • Total polyunsaturated fat intake
  • Total saturated fat intake
  • Percent of calories as fat
  • Percent of calories as carbohydrates
  • Total animal protein intake
  • Total plant food intake (by weight)
  • Total animal food intake (by weight)
  • Green vegetables (daily, not yearly)
  • Vitamin C intake
  • Total sodium intake
  • Poultry consumption
  • Egg consumption
  • Red meat consumption
  • All meat consumption
  • Fish consumption
  • Dietary cholesterol intake
  • Percent of the population currently smoking
  • Percent of the population who have ever smoked tobacco
  • Percent of the population smoking manufactured cigarettes
  • Percent of the population pipe smoking
  • Percent of the population smoking cigars
  • Percent of the population working in industry (typically less physical activity)
  • Percent of the population working in agriculture (typically more physical activity)

I won’t bore you with the results of every single combination I tried (over 100), so here’s the gist. No matter what model I use, wheat always adds unique variance. That means wheat (or an undocumented variable associated with wheat) is contributing something to heart disease that these other variables can’t account for. No combination out of the above bumped the association between wheat and heart disease out of the “statistically significant” zone.

Incidentally, one model had the best fit out of all the others for explaining heart disease:

  1. Wheat consumption (beta = 0.62, p<0.001)
  2. Apolipoprotein B (beta  = 0.38, p<0.001)
  3. Total cholesterol (beta = -0.22, p<0.05)

Note that the number for total cholesterol is inverse, meaning higher cholesterol was associated with less heart disease—at least in this specific model. Unless you’re an Ancel Keys groupie, this may actually be quite plausible.

Anyway, here’s the important point. No matter what variables I adjust for, I can’t make the correlation between wheat flour and heart disease go away. Sorry, wheat! Neener neener.

Cardiovascular disease: The only “Western” problem without “Western” risk factors

Here’s a mystery for ya.

In the China Study data, most Western diseases (such as breast cancer, colon cancer, lung cancer, and diabetes) are concentrated in areas that share some key characteristics: more industrial employment, less agricultural work, greater population density, and often higher levels of schooling. Folks here eat more processed starch and sugar, use more polyunsaturated vegetable oils, chug down more beer, smoke more manufactured cigarettes, and typically get less physical activity than their neighbors in pastoral communities.

In other words, the Western-disease-prone-regions are like baby Americas—slowly waddling, diapered and naive, towards the motherly lap of disease.

Most likely, these Western ailments aren’t spawned from a single food or activity, but from a tragic mix of diet choices, lifestyle habits, and environmental factors. For problems like breast cancer and colon cancer and lung cancer, it’s pretty easy to see what the matrix of risk-raisers are from looking at the data: It’s the same combination of things spurring disease in Western nations.

But oddly enough, this isn’t the case for heart conditions. The factors shared by other Western illnesses are not, in most cases, associated with heart disease in this data set. If you’ve read some of the earlier China Study posts, you might remember that I took issue with Campbell’s disease-clustering strategy because heart disease doesn’t fit cleanly with the “diseases of affluence” group, despite his insistence on sticking it there anyway. Unlike the other Western problems, heart disease isn’t associated with eating more sugar, working in industry, drinking more alcohol, using vegetable oils, having higher apo-B levels, or any of the other variables uniting the Western diseases and mirroring the traits common to industrialized countries.

What’s the only thing heart-disease-prone regions have in common with Westernized nations? That’s right: consumption of high amounts of wheat flour.

Food for thought. Kinda spooky.

Wheat eaters: fatter with fewer calories

Here’s some more weirdness. In both China Study I and II, wheat is the strongest positive predictor of body weight (r = 0.65, p<0.001) out of any diet variable. And it’s not just because wheat eaters are taller, either, because wheat consumption also strongly correlates with body mass index (r = 0.58, p<0.001):  

How odd! This aligns with a post Stephan Guyenet at Whole Health Source wrote about wheat consumption and obesity in China, speculating that wheat might wreak metabolic havoc wherever it goes—a trend that becomes apparent when comparing similar populations of wheat eaters and non-wheat eaters, such as in China. But perhaps there’s some confounding going on. What about calorie intake? Are the wheat eaters just scarfing down more food in general, leading to higher weight regardless of wheat consumption? Doesn’t look like it. Running wheat and calorie intake together as predictors with BMI as the outcome, wheat takes the weight-gaining gold:

  • Wheat: beta = 0.56, p<0.001
  • Calorie intake: beta = 0.13, p = 0.19

Unfortunately, we have no way of accounting for energy expenditure through physical activity—but considering wheat-eating regions tend to be pastoral and dominated by agricultural work, it seems they’d be burning through a greater wallop of calories than more sedentary regions. Indeed, independent of calorie intake, there’s a clear association between agricultural work and weight (lower) versus industry work and weight (higher), suggesting these things could be approximate measures of calorie expenditure. So once again, we’ve got a paradox: The wheat eaters are consuming lower or average levels of calories, doing more physical labor, and yet… they’re fatter.

Out of curiosity, I ran a stepwise regression on a bunch of relevant variables to see what combination would best predict BMI. (In statistics, stepwise regression is a really cool, but sometimes totally misleading method for building a statistical model. It involves adding (or winnowing away) variables one by one based on how they behave together and contribute to the outcome—BMI, in this case—until you’ve got a model where each variable offers significant variation and the highest possible percent of explanation (represented as r-squared). Unfortunately, since this process is automated and computers usually don’t understand the whole “biological plausibility” thing, you can wind up with weird models that don’t make sense in the real world. Nonetheless, it can be a worthwhile method if used with caution.)

Setting BMI as the outcome, I chose the following variables as potential exposures:

  • Total calories
  • Total fat
  • Total carbohydrates
  • Total plant food
  • Total animal food
  • Total plant protein
  • Total animal protein
  • Total monunsaturated fat intake
  • Total saturated fat intake
  • Total polyunsaturated fat intake
  • Red meat
  • All meat
  • Fish
  • Poultry
  • Eggs
  • Wheat flour
  • Corn
  • Millet
  • Legumes
  • Starchy tubers
  • Green vegetables (daily, not yearly)
  • Agricultural employment
  • Industrial employment

(I left out milk because so few counties consumed it.)

The best-fitting model for predicting BMI (at 95% confidence)? Drum roll please. Three variables made the cut.

  1. Eating more wheat flour (beta = 0.48, p<0.001)
  2. Eating more polyunsaturated fat (beta = 0.44, p<0.001), and
  3. Eating fewer green vegetables (beta = -0.29, p<0.01).

This model has an r-squared value of 0.53, meaning it predicts a little over half of the variation in BMI—at least in theory. That’s actually pretty high, considering we haven’t directly factored things like physical activity into the equation.

Interesting, eh? All animal foods and total dietary fat, by the way, were completely insignificant in terms of BMI.

Of course, there could be other variables involved that the China Study didn’t cover. Were the higher-BMI folks also more heavily muscled (perhaps from more physical labor), increasing their body weight but not body fat? Are the wheat eaters, some of whom are ethnic minorities in China (especially Turkic and Mongolian), genetically “bigger” than the Han Chinese? There are plenty of unknowns, and alas, no way to clarify them based on this data.

I guess we’ll leave it as a question mark for now.

Grain damage: Do other studies back it up?

But don’t those peer-reviewed, scientific studies tell us wheat is healthy? Alas, the vast majority of studies on grains—especially wheat—showcase at least one of the following problems:

  • They look at the effects of whole grains versus refined grains—not whole grains versus the same diet with no grains at all.
  • Study subjects increase their consumption of whole grains, and this displaces some portion of yuckfoods (processed junk, white-flour products, sugary things, and so forth). As a result, it’s hard to tell whether any health perks are due to the addition of whole grains, or from the reduction of truly-awful-for-you foods. This is particularly true in studies that scout out disease patterns in populations rather than controlled studies that measure specific changes that occur with the addition of whole grains.
  • They don’t adequately account for other factors that often accompany whole-grain consumption, like a greater level of health consciousness, more exercise, other positive diet choices, and so forth.

However, a few gems are lurking in the massive slush-pile of irrelevant studies. This one’s pretty doggone interesting, and it’s from all the way back in 1959: “Comparisons of atherogenesis in rabbits fed liquid oil, hydrogenated oil, wheat germ and sucrose.” You can click on that for the full-text PDF.

As you might guess from the title, this study examines the effects of diet on the development of atherosclerosis—AKA hardening of the arteries. The researchers took cholesterol-infused rabbit food and supplemented it with liquid corn oil (yuck), hydrogenated corn oil (double yuck), wheat germ (mystery murderer?), and sucrose (sweet poison!). Sorry, I dig hyperbole. Anyway, part of the goal was to create an experiment testing the hypothesis that “the geographic differences in the incidence of coronary disease might be related to selective hydrogenation of polyunsaturated fatty acids or to degermination of cereals.”

So now, the moment of truth: Which group had the most severe atherogenesis? Perhaps the one fed the nasty hydrogenated oil, as hypothesized? Ladies and gentlemen, place your bets. From the article:

The most severe atherogenesis occurred in the animals on the wheat germ diet.

Was it a fluke? Probably not:

In an earlier study, we maintained 5 groups of 5 rabbits each for three months on 500 mg of cholesterol daily and rabbit chow supplemented with different fats or with wheat germ. Here also, the animals on the wheat germ diet showed a significantly greater degree of atheromatous lesions than the animals on rabbit chow plus 20% corn oil, cottonseed oil or hydrogenated cottonseed oil, whereas no significant difference was found between the various fats.

So what made the wheat germ contribute to atherogenesis? The researchers state that it’s “difficult to speculate” about the mechanism, which is a scientific way of saying “We dunno.” They suggest the extra dietary protein from wheat germ could be the cause, but from the literature I’ve skimmed so far, it looks like plant proteins don’t have much effect on bunnies (although animal protein does).

Of course, rabbits are truly terrible models for anything that happens in the human body. They’re hardcore herbivores. A mere billowing of the wind is practically enough to spike their cholesterol. But what explains the specific effect of wheat germ on their poor arteries? Could this have implications for humans?

My answer: It’s “difficult to speculate.”

Other studies

Prefer human studies? Me too. Here’s one that initially looks totally irrelevant but is actually pretty interesting: Flaxseed and cardiovascular risk factors: Results from a double blind, randomized, controlled clinical trial. (This also a stellar example of why it’s important to read full-text articles instead of just abstracts, which often don’t tell you diddly about the stuff you want to know.)

This particular study charted the effects of flaxseed on adults with high cholesterol. One group got food with ground flaxseed; the other group got food with added wheat bran. Other dietary elements were the same. (Low fat, low cholesterol. Fun times!)

The results? Ye Olde Flaxseed Group did pretty well: Compared to their baseline measurements, these folks had lower insulin, lower blood glucose, lower C-reactive protein (a marker for inflammation), and better insulin sensitivity (as calculated by HOMA-IR).

But poor Wheat Group was less fortunate. Since the study was about flaxseed, the results of wheat aren’t specifically discussed, but check out “Table 4″ in the link above to see the numbers for yourself. The wheat-bran eaters had a 14.9% increase in insulin resistance (calculated by HOMA-IR) and a 9.3% increase in C-reactive protein. In other words, they lost some insulin sensitivity and gained some inflammation—two risk factors for heart disease. Hmm. Was the wheat bran to blame? Some other element of the control diet? It’s impossible to say for sure based on this study, but considering the wheat group’s adverse effects were more dramatic than the flaxseed group’s benefits, it seems a little suspect.

(A rather abrupt end of part one! The next post will have some more studies and speculations on potential mechanisms for wheat as causative of heart disease.)

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301 responses

2 09 2010
neisy

Also! For anyone who wants to analyze the online data, HUGE WARNING: If you open the stuff in Excel and then try to copy and paste into another program (I’ve been using SYSTAT), be very, very careful that it transfers correctly. I kept having the bizarre problem of about 10 blank cells randomly inserting themselves into each column of data once pasted, typically after line 400 or so. I have no clue why. But it was a total headache. It causes some of the data to be misaligned, so any attempt to analyze different variables is inaccurate. Again, headache city! Avoid it if possible! Adieu.

3 09 2010
Richard Tamesis, M.D.

Thank you, Denise, for this magnificent effort! This is way more informative and more fun to read than 99% of the articles I plow through in the medical journals I read.

20 01 2014
Mark

Neisy, I have a q……with regard to correlations on disease and food consumption, where do they get all of the numbers that show direct or inverse correlations with food x or y?

2 09 2010
Carl

Fascinating! Thank you for doing all that hard work. I will letting others know about this post.

There is one variable you did not mention (and may not be available): how was the wheat processed. Traditionally, in the West we ate wheat as yeast breads. (OK, so the poor also got porridge.) The Chinese like noodles — they invented them. The question that rolls around in my mind is: is wheat OK if it has been fermented?

Industrial foods don’t just strip off germ and bran, they bypass the yeast. Today we eat a lot of crackers, cookies, pasta and breakfast cereals. And even our yeast breads are shortchanged as bakeries use sugar to speed up the rising process.

4 09 2010
neisy

I really, really, really wish the China Study had documented more specific information about processing methods. I have no idea if the wheat was soaked/sprouted/fermented/refined/etc. One woman who reads this blog actually contacted Richard Peto, one of the other China Study researchers who worked alongside Campbell, and asked for more information about how wheat was processed—but he had no idea.

7 10 2010
Warren Dew

For what it’s worth, wheat in Chinese noodles is typically not fermented or sprouted. Northern Chinese do eat some wheat as bread, but much that is unleavened. I’m not sure what you mean by “refined”, but the foods are made from wheat flour.

17 12 2010
Riaan Conradie

Hi Denise,

Thanks for a great read. The other thing that one should remember with these food frequency questionnaires is that they can occasionally ‘overlook’ hidden dietary intake. Obviously this is dependent on how thoroughly the questionnaire was constructed.

The reason I raise this issue is because a processed item especially used by Chinese and Japanese is soy sauce. And now, with the big sushi fad, westerners also consume this to a certain extent. To my amazement someone pointed out to me that soy sauce contains a considerable amount of wheat. I don’t know whether ‘wheat’ consumption included this hidden wheat contributor.

I tend to, just like you, try and listen to my body to see what I should eat or not eat. And wheat is one of those my body doesn’t like.

Thanks again for really informative posts.

19 12 2010
neisy

Thanks Riaan! Fortunately, the China Study used not only food-frequency questionnaires, but also had survey crews visit each county and record food intake (by weighing, observing, measuring, etc.) which probably reduced the chance of overlooked data.

The study also recorded soy sauce as a separate variable, but there were no major correlations with heart disease — not surprising, since it’s hard to eat a condiment in the same quantities you’d eat a staple grain. (It may also be significant that the wheat in soy sauce is traditionally fermented.)

9 02 2013
samhuff96

And it is possible to get soy sauce that contains no wheat, is GMO free and is gluten free. Costs more, of course.

9 02 2013
Edward Hutchinson

I guess you are referring to Raw Coconut Aminos, Soy-Free Seasoning Sauce Although it is more expensive it’s possible to find 16 fl oz (473 ml) $4.10 (£2.65)

19 05 2013
Magpie Stitcher

Good question. Here’s another: Is Chinese wheat a “heritage” variety, un-messed-with by hybridizers? Or is it similar to American wheat, which in the last hundred years has been changed around on the chromosomal level to be shorter, easier to harvest, higher protein, etc.?

2 09 2010
Stan Bleszynski

This work should be published!

2 09 2010
Tony

But Campbell and his devotees will complain that there’s too much cutesy grammar for it to be taken seriously. Of course even if it was as formal as Denise’s previous analysis, they’ll still find some other irrelevant thing to complain about instead of honestly discussing the statistical analysis and its conclusions.

3 09 2010
David

It is published. Right here.

2 09 2010
Stan Bleszynski

Re: … Excel and then try to copy and paste into another program (I’ve been using SYSTAT),

I have used Excel 2007 initially for the same data as you but gave up after loosing columns of data during save and reopen (past column 200 or so). Looks like large data sets are crashing the Mickeymouse Software. I am now using Open Office 3.2 spreadsheet, it’s slower but it works.

Regards,
Stan

4 09 2010
neisy

Glad to know I’m not the only one who had trouble with that!

2 09 2010
CPM

Wow. That is more than just a “wheat post”. That is really awesome.

2 09 2010
Brian

Good stuff. Neener, neener. Although used sparingly outside of psychological research, a factor analysis might help group the variables. It would be interesting to see, for example, if a single factor loaded similar to your stepwise results. Actually, as I think about it, it would be interesting to see the entire factor structure.

Regarding your theories, and at least statistically, wheat appears to be the lone sledgehammer. Since they’re all accounting for the same variability, it might turn out to be something as simple as the displacement of the other foods. So when you eat more wheat, health deteriorates because of the wheat but also because of the removal of the other foods.

Send me an email if you want to discuss the factor analysis.

Good stuff.

4 09 2010
neisy

Factor analysis might be interesting—I’ll see what that turns up and include it in the next wheat post. I’ll shoot you an email as well. :)

I think the displacement of other foods could be a factor, but I also wonder if wheat could increase the requirement for certain nutrients and independently induce deficiency. Lots of possibilities. I’ll be writing about a bunch of potential theories in the next post.

8 09 2010
Brian

I’m sure antinutrient properties are significant, directly or indirectly reaking havoc on gut permeability, which compounds the displacement problem.

Looking forward to the email.

Wow, 134 comments! Good on you.

27 09 2010
Priyanka

Hi Brian,
i would like to learn on factor analysis…I have applied the same in my analysis of 138 CHD cases and 187 controls…could you please help me out.

2 09 2010
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2 09 2010
Stan Bleszynski

Re: So when you eat more wheat, health deteriorates because of the wheat but also because of the removal of the other foods.

No, because rice would have worked the same but it doesn’t!

2 09 2010
Brian

Why?

12 09 2010
Jeff W.

You’d need a controlled study to determine exactly why, this is an epistemological study and therefore can only point you in the right direction for further research, it can’t by itself prove anything (this is what makes Campell’s use of the study to prove meat is bad so ridiculous).

There is a high correlation between wheat consumption and heart disease, but no high correlation between rice consumption and heart disease. From the information in the study, there is no way to tell why that is. It does, however, give a scientists a giant red flag that says “Look Here!”.

The best you can do is make a hypothesis as to why it is the way it is, based on what you know of wheat, the human body, and risk factors for heart disease. To prove anything, you’d need to run experiments designed to disprove your hypothesis. That’s why an epistemological study can’t be used to show causes, only correlations which would then be subject to further research.

Personally, the extremely strong correlation with wheat and heart disease is enough to make me stop eating wheat until someone figures out what is going on there.

It’s kinda like the fact that you don’t need to understand how gravity works to recognize that usually when someone jumps off a cliff, they die soon after. We can make that intuitive connection without needing an exhaustive understanding of why it happens.

13 09 2010
Brian

There are issues with rice and heart disease but the relationship is not linear, it’s U-shaped. Maybe it’s protective, maybe it’s benign. In support of this, wheat and rice consumption are inversely correlated. Where low rice consumption and elevated risk are concerned (left side of the U), it might be simply that lower rice and increased wheat consumption is the problem. It could also mean that lower rice consumption absent of wheat would not be a problem. This is plausible because as rice consumption increases, wheat consumption decreases, decreasing risk for heart disease. At some point, over consumption of rice is a problem, even in the absence of wheat.

2 09 2010
PhilM

This is all very interesting. I eliminated wheat from my diet some months ago (in fact, most carbs due to impaired glucose tolerance). If wheat is really that damaging, it’s a smart move on my part! Ha Ha.

I for one, would like to see your work open sourced. I suspect there are a lot of stats wonks reading your blog (self included) and helpful in eliminating any doubt on the analysis you are reporting.

Keep up the good work.

3 09 2010
Tonni

Wow, brainwave. I’m not a stats wonk, but I’ve been following nutrition blogs the last half year or so and the bad science moniker gets thrown around a lot – and I believe deservedly so.

The challenge in my perspective has always been to conceive of a way of exchanging ideas that actually lives up to the lofty ideals of peer review scientific rigor.

In reading blog posts like this one I am pleased by all the detail, but at the same time mindful of the detail that is missing. For instance in the section of models with more variables it is mentioned briefly that more than 100 models were tried. Even if we trust that Denise would try hardest to disprove the hypothesis by focusing on the combinations most likely to do so, we would have to consider that maybe she missed one – and if someone were to ascribe less than pure motives to one such analysis not spelling out each combination that has been tried becomes attackable.

When reading that bit I thought it was a shame that there isn’t a less cumbersome (than writing out a massive text) way to convey the particulars of an analysis to an informed and critical audience. Detailed though they are we are still settling for conclusions and interpretations. This principle holds for all publications in journals that rely on statistics.

I didn’t really dwell on this missing level of communication but I guess it’s always been in the back of my mind. However, this post by PhilM following observations about the weaknesses of Excel sparked something.

I think what the scientific community (in general) really needs is a global cloud-style database where data sets from research can be published – and which can be accessed by a wide community (ideally anyone). A full palette (whatever a full palette is) of statistical tools will need to exist that can draw data from these published data sets. The configurations, analysis types, variable inclusions and whatever else is needed for statistical analysis need to be named/numbered and saved so a peer reviewer or other interested party can pick up, tweak and check an entire piece of work and as PhilM said eliminate any doubt on the analysis.

Not saying this is particularly realistic, but it’s just a bit of an epiphany to me. From not being able to conceive a mechanism that overcomes what I perceive to be a shortcoming when exchanging hypotheses and findings based on statistics through journals and in other written form I can now imagine one that would.

Instead of wondering what type of analysis Campbell used to reach his conclusions with this kind of system we could see _exactly_ what he did. It would leave scientists a lot more open to criticism, but to me that’s sort of the whole point – get rid of bad science through qualified and appropriate criticism with no smoke and mirrors being wielded. Additionally instead of saying my analysis shows x and your analysis shows y, but we can’t reconcile them because you don’t fully understand my analysis and I don’t fully understand yours… specific analytical elements could be discussed – the appropriateness of the inclusions/exclusions of specific data points or variables.

Yeah, I’m a dreamer and the point of this post is just to thank all involved with the discussion (not least Denise who keeps striving to provide a full and balanced picture) for the epiphany.

4 09 2010
anon

I don’t think you’re a dreamer. In fact, what you’re advocating is crucial, since the institutionalized lack of integrity in academia, where grants and tenure depend on supporting the status quo, has completely hijacked our society. Hundreds of millions have switched to unprecedented diets based on pronouncements that cannot be trusted! Seed particles, rancid (but bleached and deodorized to hide it) seed oils, and seed sugars, all produced via industrial extraction, are now the vast majority of what humans ingest — and humans don’t eat seeds!

And don’t get me started on drug research. :-)

Until more people know how to do what Denise can do — and unmask the fraudulent omissions in pseudo-academic research — the result isn’t science, but the creation of a paid-off medieval priest/wizard class that lies to us about what the runes show.

In my view, some of the key disconnects are:

- datasets are not fully published

- papers themselves do not approach the data even-handedly, instead imposing hypotheses on the data before that’s warranted

- abstracts do not accurately describe the paper’s results! Yet only the abstract is written in a manner that can be parsed by the public and/or their jounalist proxies!

More people need to be able to read scientific papers. Michael Eades, among others, has written posts where he tries to educate laypeople on how they can be understood.

And we need more analyses by people like Denise (and Richard Kroeker’s Amazon posting) that demonstrate the gulf between the data and what the experimenters are telling the public the data “means.”

And I think publication of experimental datasets on the net ought to be an absolute requirement for funding. Cases like that of Harvard “scientist” Marc Hauser cannot be that rare — what’s rare is that the public found out. If data publication were mandatory, a lot of the scientific fraud being perpetrated would be stopped.

Campbell isn’t the only one building his career on this kind of foundation!

24 09 2010
James

Don’t think Monsanto is too happy with the direction this discussion is taking….neither is Cargill. Maybe Denise can “prove” that wheat has healing qualities, then the FDA will classify it as a drug and it will be banned.

4 09 2010
neisy

Thanks Phil!

The data I used is all available here: http://www.ctsu.ox.ac.uk/~china/monograph/chdata.htm

I’m also going to compile all the wheat-related variables in an easier-to-use format and post that as well, so that other people can run their own analyses on it. The data on the Oxford website is pretty unwieldy.

7 02 2013
masonicboom

Phil,

I’m doing an open-source attempt at reproducing Denise’s results. The report focusing on results from this page is here: https://bitbucket.org/masonicboom/chinastudy/src/master/output/wheat.md. The full project is here: https://bitbucket.org/masonicboom/chinastudy.

Join in–it’s fun. Gluten-free statisticians of the internet, unite.

2 09 2010
Tuck

Wow, this is really incredible. Great work, can’t wait for Part 2!

2 09 2010
kat

Thanks Denise, looking forward to part two!

2 09 2010
john

Thank you, again!

2 09 2010
Darrin

Fascinating stuff, as always. It’s too bad that we as a culture are still so focused on demonizing fat, saturated fat, cholesterol, and calories in general that findings about the negative health implications of grains, and especially gluten grains such as wheat, go relatively unnoticed and unstudied.

2 09 2010
Monte Diaz

Great work as usual Denise. The wheat issue is even more relevant than debunking Campbell’s false China Study conclusions.

In addition to the factors you listed above have you looked at the anti-nutrients Phytic Acid and Lectin? Phytic Acid is a chelator of the minerals Calcium, Magnesium, and Zinc as well as the vitamin Niacin. I’m sure it’s no coincidence that Calcium and Magnesium are very important to heart health. Zinc has been shown to prevent atherosclerosis and Niacin lowers triglyceride levels.

Now take lectins. Lectins are very inflammatory and inflammation is a key factor in heart disease. It is also a key factor in metabolic syndrome (insulin resistance, belly fat, diabetes) and these are all risk factors for heart disease. Lets keep going, inflammation is a primary reason that arteries develop fissures which are then plugged with sticky cholesterol and eventually lead to clogged arteries. The vast majority of heart attacks aren’t caused by complete blockage of arteries. They are caused by blood clots getting stuck in these compromised arteries. Here is the kicker, the lectins in wheat (and soy) cause agglutination (or thicker blood and clotting). The inflammation factor cannot be overlooked.

Coupled with what you wrote above any assertion that wheat is good for you should be toast.

2 09 2010
CPM

Hi Monte,

I believe a lot of plants have lectins, and they are all not necessarily bad for you. I think many can be destroyed with proper cooking. I believe some of the interesting things about wheat lectins are that they appear to be resistant to heat (making cooking them out more difficult), and they are insulin-mimetic (which could maybe also be involved in the increased BMI).

4 09 2010
neisy

Thanks Monte!

Coupled with what you wrote above any assertion that wheat is good for you should be toast.

Pun intended? ;)

6 09 2010
Monte Diaz

Pun? What pun? >:)

17 09 2010
Dana

A lectin, basically, is a protein with a sugar molecule on one end. They cause the trouble they cause, when they cause trouble at all, because sometimes they are able to fit into receptors on cells. (Cell receptors, by the way, if I’m not mistaken, are also sugar molecules.) The trouble with wheat lectins is they are very compatible with certain cells in the lining of the GI tract. I learned about this stuff from Peter D’Adamo, the Blood Type Diet guy. I don’t know how good his science is generally but I followed up what he said about lectins and he seemed to be spot on about that. He thinks how badly a given lectin affects a person depends on their blood type since that may influence how their cell receptors are shaped.

But from what he said, wheat’s bad for pretty much everybody. Bad scene.

2 09 2010
Matt Lentzner

Awesome post.

I especially liked how you proposed a hypothesis and went about trying to disprove it – actual real science. Nutritional science has been controlled by hacks way too long who are scientists in title only.

Looking forward to part II although I have a feeling I know how the story turns out.

2 09 2010
Robert McLeod

Thanks Denise. One wonders what the causive factors are? It is breakdown of the tight-junctions in the intestine allowing more pathogens to form biofilms inside the lining of arteries, or perhaps gluten exorphins causing signalling problems in the paracrine system?

4 09 2010
neisy

The next post will be discussing potential causative factors. Unfortunately, there’s so little research out there looking for harmful effects of wheat or grains that it’s all theory and speculation at this point!

2 09 2010
Paul C

Once again you’ve left my wheat-free math brain happily buzzed.

4 09 2010
neisy

Glad to buzz ya.

2 09 2010
Chris Masterjohn

What a superb prelude! You have a phenomenal ability to analyze the heck out of something and then fully acknowledge that the limitations of your model, which requires a level of humility not easily found.

It’s also unambiguous evidence against the theories bound to pop up any moment now that this work was funded by the millet industry.

4 09 2010
neisy

Thanks Chris! (I definitely read that as “mullet industry”—maybe it’s time to stop staring at the computer screen for a while…)

8 09 2010
Chris Masterjohn

Either that or you need to stop watching so many 80s movies.

17 09 2010
Dana

That’s OK. Just remind them that millet is a goitrogen if not properly fermented and de-hulled. :D

17 09 2010
Chris Masterjohn

Hey Dana,

Millet is actually goitrogenic no matter what you do to it, the goitrogens exist in both the bran and the endosperm, and traditional processing such as fermentation and cooking dramatically increase the goitrogenicity of millet, which is why the traditional cultures in the Sudan using these methods have extremely high rates of goiter, and why the Sudanese relying more on wheat and sorghum, whatever the merits of those two grains, have much better thyroid health. Millet damages thyroid tissue and inhibits basically every step of thyroid metabolism. It is a much broader-spectrum thyroid toxin than soy, cruciferous vegetables, or cyanogenic glycosides, and from among these it is the only one whose effect cannot be overcome by extra iodine.

The least goitrogenic form of millet is actually raw millet, though I’m not sure how appetizing or healthy that would be.

I have reviewed the literature on millet goitrogenicity in my Thyroid Toxins Report, a summary of which is given free on my web site:

http://www.cholesterol-and-health.com/Goitrogen-Special-Report.html

Chris

2 09 2010
Dr. William Davis

Thank you for another masterful analysis!

You are providing confirmation–from an unexpected data source–of what I have been witnessing: Wheat causes heart disease; wheat removal stops or reduces heart disease (meaning coronary atherosclerotic plaque).

I believe that the mechanisms are several, but I believe it principally involves wheat’s inordinate provocation of small, dense LDL. More than any other food, wheat provokes small LDL production, though the precise mechanism is unclear. It may also be due to wheat’s unusual capacity to provoke endogenous glycation, i.e., glucose modification of proteins. In fact, small LDL (provoked by wheat) is unusually subject to glycation (provoked by wheat). Put it all together and you have a highly atherogenic food substance.

Keep up the fabulous work!

4 09 2010
neisy

Thanks for stopping by, Dr. Davis! Your blog is fantastic!

2 09 2010
Michael Barker

This is awesome. I am impressed by your work. I do have to add, “Do you ever sleep?”

3 09 2010
anon

Not if her boyfriend has any say in the matter. ;-)

(Hey, that wasn’t any more sexist than remarks made by a major, major scientist with many publications under his belt…many of them non-fiction!)

4 09 2010
neisy

HA! Rawr.

Incidentally, “The China Study” was published by a company that specializes in fiction and pop culture (including “Psychology of the Simpsons” and “Seven Seasons of Buffy”) –> http://www.benbellabooks.com/smartpop.php

6 09 2010
Tony

That association doesn’t really tell us anything either. There’s far more wisdom in the screenplays for the Simpsons and Buffy The Vampire Slayer than from Campbell’s writings.

4 09 2010
neisy

No.

2 09 2010
moksha

wheat eaters fared WORSE than SMOKERS? and all the other factors??? and the bunnies (1959 study) worse than HYDROGENATED CORN POISON … (i mean oil…)

your further entries are anticipated with baited (nuts, a little meat, some veggies) breath–

thanks SO much Denise-
moksha

4 09 2010
neisy

Thanks moksha!

17 09 2010
Dana

I wonder if that was the same bunny study that was part of the “evidence” used to “prove” that cholesterol kills human beings? If so, learning about these additional food ingredients is an eye-opener. Oh let’s focus on the CHOLESTEROL already… did no one think to be alarmed about the wheat germ?

2 09 2010
2 09 2010
Greg

An r of .58 is not convincing. Thats an r^2 of .3364 or 33.6% chance that wheat is even associated with morbidity. I wouldn’t call a 33% chance strong. True the association between smoking and bladder or lung cancer is only 49%, but there is a lot of evidence pointing to biological plausibility and mechanisms behind smoking increasing risk for lung cancer.

No research exists on the biological mechanisms for what your hypothesizing. Yes, the epidemology showed a possible association between the two factors. Yet, we aren’t even sure if they are indeed associated, let alone if the association is even important.

The data does suggest more study of wheat consumption is needed. Although there is nothing in the data that will allow you to make any conclusions.

3 09 2010
moksha

“The data does suggest more study of wheat consumption is needed. Although there is nothing in the data that will allow you to make any conclusions.”

yes greg – she already has said that as a clear disclaimer in the text…
(and frankly, 33% is fairly convincing data-risk for me – 2 bullets in the chamber of a “6 shooter” roulette? i’ll pass)

yes – more study is needed- but will such study ever happen? it’s akin to any other of our misguided and mistaken mass-market “lock-ins” of our modern world (querty keyboard, unquestionable worship of vaccines, microsoft windows, deification of cow’s milk) – who will dare verify this negative data on this staple of our civilization in the face of the astronomical nutritional and social changes it would entail – not to mention having to face the wrath of the mega-corporations that support all the related products?

if proven by a brilliant researcher to be true – it could likely be the last act of his/her career much less his/her life.

that said, i hope there is enough brave souls in science/nutrition to try.

3 09 2010
Tony

The U.S. Department of Agriculture will most certainly object to any conclusions that wheat is murder. After all, they have been pushing us to eat more carbs with their food pyramid for the last 40 years, encouraging farmers to grow more wheat, corn and soy, exporting a lot of that to other countries and converting all that corn into high fructose corn syrup.

17 09 2010
Dana

I love cow’s milk. We kill our cattle way too young now–hunter-gatherers go for the older, slower animals, who are also invariably fatter than the rest of the herd members. Young food animals = slender food animals. It’s either fatten them with grain, which is bad for us, or eat them lean, which is also bad for us, because animal protein not backed by animal fat can lead to rabbit starvation if there are also insufficient carbs in the diet. Plus, animal fat’s just plain necessary for human health.

So cow’s milk is an acceptable substitute for the fat we were supposed to be getting along with our meat. Grass-fed cow’s milk is by far the best of all cow’s milk, with a nice complement of vitamins K2, A, and E.

If you’re lactose-intolerant, butter does not contain lactose, and cheese and cream contain very little. If you’re casein-allergic, I’m sorry.

3 09 2010
Chris Masterjohn

Greg,

The r and r-squared value have nothing to do with the chance or probability of an association. The r value represents the extent to which the data points fall tightly around a straight line and the r-squared value represents the proportion of the variation of one variable (heart disease mortality within a region, in this case) explained by another (mean wheat intake within a region, in this case).

This is not a probability statement or a chance of anything. The p value, which indicates statistical significance, allows a probability statement. According to the probability theory used by standard statistics, the probability statement for a p<0.05 is that if there were no relationship between the two variables, and we were to take repeated samples over and over, fewer than five percent of them would generate an association with the strength observed in this sample. Consequently, we say we are more than 95% confident that the association is true.

An r-squared of 34% by contrast means that wheat intake accounts for 34% of the variation in heart disease mortality.

And, of course, as Denise acknowledged, absolutely none of these even imply a causal relationship, regardless of whether one is plausible.

Chris

4 09 2010
neisy

^ What he said.

3 09 2010
ekon

I believe that you are confusing R squared with p values.

3 09 2010
Bushrat

Biologically plausibile…I recommend you duck over to Dr Eades blog, or look up William Davis.

4 09 2010
Angela Quattrano

I’ve heard that logic so many times: “We don’t understand the mechanism for X, so the data is not meaningful.”

In fact, after I gave up wheat and found so many health improvements (reproducible!), a PhD biologist told me I couldn’t give it up because he didn’t understand the mechanism for what had happened to me.

That was his problem. I wasn’t going to make it mine by sacrificing my health because of his ignorance.

You see, there is a difference between understanding how the engine of a locomotive works and deciding it’s a good thing to get off the tracks when it’s coming your way.

5 09 2010
Tony

Physicists still don’t understand the mechanism of gravity either, but that doesn’t mean that releasing a bowling ball over your head won’t cause any damage.

4 09 2010
neisy

I think you’re confusing r-squared with the p-value: R estimates the proportion of variance predicted; p measures significance. An r-squared of 33% for a single food in relation to heart disease, especially when no other factors seem to diminish that relationship, is *extremely* high—especially given the complex etiology of heart disease.

There isn’t any research on the biological mechanisms, but that doesn’t mean that the biological mechanisms don’t exist—we just don’t have a scientific culture willing to explore this sort of thing right now, especially given how much wheat (and corn and soy) is subsidized. The economic repercussions of pinpointing a wheat-heart disease link would be devastating.

I agree there’s nothing in the data that could warrant drawing conclusions—I hope I’ve emphasized the limitations of epidemiology in a way that makes that clear! If not, I’ll say it again: “Epidemiology kinda sucks.” There ya go. ;)

5 09 2010
Bushrat

Sorry to be finicky (but I forgot what R-square was until you mentioned it):

R-square measures the amount of variation within the data explained by the model.

So if you have a R-square of 0.33 says that 33% of the variation within the response variable can be explained by this model.

Or, in English, 33% of morbidity can be explained by wheat alone.

31 03 2012
Kyle

Greg said:
“No research exists on the biological mechanisms for what your hypothesizing.”

Ummm, not so sure about that Greg. I’ve been researching lectins in the context of their effects on the gastrointestinal system, specifically on villi and interferences with the immunoglobulins. I keep bumping into references to endogenous lectin pathways, the endothelium, the complement system and inflammation. I’ve disregarded them while continuing with research concerning the epithelium but there sure seems to be a lot of material out there on it. Don’t you just hate it when stuff gets in the way of your study of stuff? Given that the body has it’s own lectin systems, what would the possibility be that certain exogenous lectins may have an effect on them? Mmmm, the possibilities are so tantalizing they’re almost tactile. Not to mention that the body possesses a number of glycoproteins that are involved in cell signaling. Now the possibilities are beginning to seem endless.

Denise has mentioned a correlation with wheat and insulin sensitivity. Some lectins appear to have the ability to affect the insulin system. I suspect that Denise isn’t blindly teasing out correlations in this area so you might give her a little space on this one. One of the effects of hyperinsulemia/hypoglycemia ( I forget which at this point) is mineral dumping. Specifically magnesium, of which one of it’s more common molecules found in the body is an extremely potent anti-inflammatory, on par with if not exceeding glutathione because it’s not made in the quantities that glutathione is. And isn’t CHD an inflammatory disease, specifically of the intima? Hasn’t magnesium been implicated as a player in CHD along with B6? The pathways are there for that possibility to express itself.

Frankly, since degenerative diseases (diseases of affluence) are progressive, it would be interesting to see some regression analysis on age, but then we already know that they present after middle age generally.

If you’d like to sink your teeth into a little more of the meat of this subject see http://www.biomedcentral.com/1472-6823/5/10.

Kyle

2 09 2010
moksha

ohhhh – just had one more mischievous thought – you must be amused, at least a little, niesy – that dear ol’ doc campbell is [undoubtedly] as attentive to your new posts as the rest of us “fans”…. :-)

keep stirrin the pot– (yes – that’s blatant cheer-leading for all you detractors…)

3 09 2010
Bushrat

Well hopefully Campbell will get some lessons in how to run proper statistical analyses.

2 09 2010
Vicki

Sorry, I am not a scientist so I did have to gloss over your blog. Forgive me if you covered some of these questions…

Hasn’t wheat been genetically modified over the years? Could that be a factor in this problem? Also, wheat is in everything at the grocery store from pasta sauce to frozen fries. Could it just be the massive quantities of wheat in everything rather than just ‘everything in moderation.’ Surely someone who ate just a sandwhich at lunch and a small bowl of bran flakes in the morning couldn’t expect wheat to cause their heart any trouble.

I have heard also in terms of the gut rather than the heart, that yeast is no longer used in breads. To quickly mass produce bread, they have used some other raising agent that has lead to gut problems.

3 09 2010
anon

Dr. William Davis has written about how modern wheat differs from ancient strains both genetically and in its effects on our physiology. All n=1 experiments, of course. But in short, while the primordial strains aren’t exactly health food, modern “whole grain” wheat is a complete horror show:

Emmer test:
http://heartscanblog.blogspot.com/2010/06/in-search-of-wheat-emmer.html

Einkorn test 2:
http://heartscanblog.blogspot.com/2010/06/in-search-of-wheat-another-einkorn.html

Einkorn test 1:
http://heartscanblog.blogspot.com/2010/06/in-search-of-wheat-einkorn-and-blood.html

4 09 2010
neisy

Wheat has definitely been modified (again and again and again), which does beg the question—has the quest for high-yielding grains caused unanticipated repercussions for health? I’ll be writing more about this in the next post. Ancient forms of wheat do seem to be far less harmful than modern varieties.

Quantity could certainly play a role as well, especially when most people are eating wheat that hasn’t been prepared to minimize phytate and lectin content.

5 09 2010
moksha

… and after being discouraged from doing it yet again in the US – monsanto is apparently working with australian farmers to get their nasty little gm mods into the already nasty modern wheat for an even nastier big mac bun…

http://monsanto.mediaroom.com/intergrain-monsanto-new-wheat-breeding-collaboration

eeeeek!

7 09 2010
Matt Lentzner

I don’t think wheat was ever good for anyone. It’s in the fossil record:

http://www.environnement.ens.fr/perso/claessen/agriculture/mistake_jared_diamond.pdf

My opinion is that the history of agriculture is humanity trying to develop a healthy diet that is primarily supported by grains. Grains were processed to reduce the toxins and this was supplemented by gardening and animal husbandry. Maybe the French developed this system to it’s highest form.

Unfortunately, we have started on a whole new frontier of industrial food. It’s assembled from it’s components. I think the big finding is that we really don’t know what we are doing. Just looking at carbs, protein, fat, and some vitamins is a gross oversimplification. You get something less than the sum of it’s parts. Maybe this will be figured out someday, but in the meantime it’s back to basics for me.

17 09 2010
Dana

Look into the field of paleopathology sometime. Paleopathologists can tell, just by looking at skeletal structure, whether the ancient remains they are studying come from a farming or a foraging (hunter-gatherer) people. Farmers are almost universally shorter, more incompletely developed skeletally, and show more bone lesions, meaning more disease during life.

And that’s with ancient grains, not modern hybrids.

Crowding is a possible explanation for the disease, but Weston Price noted that populations exposed to tuberculosis but who ate traditional diets rather than industrial had a greater resistance to TB.

2 09 2010
Jenny Light

I just want to thank you, Denise, for all of your great work!

The wheat of today is so much different that what was grown even 20-30 years ago, now with even higher gluten content. A person should be terrified to step into a bakery in today’s world! Read the label on most commercial bread, and you will find that manufacturers even add extra gluten flour to the mix.

Also, genetically engineered wheat is definately in the future, as Monsanto is now working with Australian wheat breeders to further warp the plant. “The North American wheat industry has argued that it needs GM wheat in order for the crop to remain a profitable alternative to other cereals”.

http://www.foodnavigator-usa.com/Financial-Industry/Monsanto-invests-in-collaboration-with-Australian-wheat-breeders

I stopped eating all grains 18 months ago, have lost 30 pounds thus far (only 10 more to go) and will never go back. I feel better at 50 than I did when I was 40!

4 09 2010
neisy

Jenny, that’s fantastic! Congrats on the weight loss! At this rate, I bet when you’re 60 you’ll feel better than when you were 30. :)

3 09 2010
Wheat is murder «

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3 09 2010
William

That Wheat Is Murder image has me in stitches. It’s the best, most clever, co-optation I’ve seen in ages. Sure to get under the skin of blowhard holier-than-thou activists everywhere! I would totally rock a t-shirt like that. :)

3 09 2010
Chris Masterjohn

Borrowing from an ol’ Propaghandi song, maybe it could say ‘wheat is still murder and berry is still rape.’ (or grape?)

Chris

3 09 2010
anon

Yes, like the rest of Denise’s output, it’s absolute genius (if a bit cutesy and girlish.)

Sorry, couldn’t help myself. :-)

6 09 2010
3 09 2010
moksha

hey – lighten up on the “cutesy and girlish” thing – why must we be bored to tears by deadpan, dry and chalky old “scientific” bla bla just ’cause this is a somewhat obscure/intellectual discussion?

it does not diminish the message one iota – and keeps (i am sure) more than just me coming back since i, for one, can readily admit that i don’t understand (in detail) a good bit of the statistical jargon!

niesy, cutesy on– ;-)

(PS to niesy- a little teeny primer tacked on to the analysis on the range/value/significance of the numbers you are tossing about would, in fact, assist statistics neophytes like myself to glean just a bit more than the basic message. now, i’m not sayin’ that “WHEAT IS MURDER” is not pretty percipient – but maybe some simple guide to what constitutes a “statistically significant” number value, etc etc – thanks)

3 09 2010
grace

Denise,

Have you seen Brad Marshall’s review of the data on how saturated fat is associated with less CAD (heart disease) in the Tuoli province?

I am looking eagerly to your thoughts… Strong work on your presentation!! Keep up the edification and education for all. Thank you for all your SLAYING… :) You rock, grrrrl!!

http://drbganimalpharm.blogspot.com/2010/07/great-tragedy-of-science-slaying-of.html

-g

3 09 2010
anon

why must we be bored to tears by deadpan, dry and chalky old “scientific” bla bla?

Because it’s the figleaf we’re holding over our tiny, withered scientific integrity?

3 09 2010
The China Study on Wheat | Health - Diet, Exercise and Natural Health Blog

[...] Minger has just put up another great China Study post that’s worth reading if you haven’t already. Denise has been busy applying her [...]

3 09 2010
Nathaniel

Holy cow! You obviously put a lot of work into this. I just want to say, thank you for doing this… it is fantastic work on a very important topic. I support this 100%.

3 09 2010
anand srivastava

That was amazing.

Now to stop eating the damn thing.

Unfortunately, its too difficult to avoid :-(.

5 09 2010
Bushrat

No its not. It just takes discipline.

But to start, ditch pasta and bread and cook most of your meals at home. When you eat out, get sandwiches without bread if you have to buy lunch, or buy a meal with a side salad or vegetables (i.e steak or fish).

Removing wheat has improved my health considerably.

5 09 2010
Angela Quattrano

I didn’t find it difficult, either. You just have to let go of the things you can’t eat anymore and embrace all the wonderful things you still can – including a lot you may never have tried before.

6 09 2010
anand srivastava

No I don’t eat those things.
I am an Indian, we have very different things that we eat.
When I do go to friends or relatives, it gets difficult.
Sometimes, there are some sweets with tiny bits of it. And I do have a sweet tooth, however well controlled.

6 09 2010
Angela Quattrano

People here have the same problem: wheat can be found in almost anything, and often people who offer you meals make no effort to accommodate you.

But the fact is that your feelings toward this issue play a big role in whether you find giving up wheat to be easy and straightforward, hard and limiting or absolutely impossible.

I prepare almost all my food at home from basic ingredients. When I visit people, I often eat before the meal or bring food for myself, explaining that I don’t want to inconvenience them with my dietary restrictions.

I never go anywhere expecting to be able to buy food. I always bring it. There is no gluten in my house.

You have to find what will work for you. It’s a matter of your health.

3 09 2010
Ted Hutchinson

Re Monte Diaz’s comment
Evidence of decreasing mineral density in wheat grain over the last 160 years.
The concentrations of zinc, iron, copper and magnesium remained stable between 1845 and the mid 1960s, but since then have decreased significantly, which coincided with the introduction of semi-dwarf, high-yielding cultivars. In comparison, the concentrations in soil have either increased or remained stable.

4 09 2010
Monte Diaz

Thank you for bringing up an important point Mr. Hutchinson. I would add that the phytic acid wheat ironically binds and makes unavailable the very minerals it is supposed to give us.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8829129?dopt=Abstract

But not only has the mineral makeup of wheat been depleted but the mineral content across the board from all intensively farmed crops has been depleted.

http://www.organic-center.org/tocpdfs/Yields2Pager.pdf

If you take a look at the USDA’s own data you’ll see that we have to eat 10 to 15 cups of leafy vegetables to get our daily allowances of the tested minerals not to mention the trace minerals. If you notice the daily recommendations have been going up and up for servings of vegetables with advocates now reaching for 10 to 20 servings. In an evolutionary sense this cannot be normal. We don’t have the teeth nor the stomachs to eat this way. Its more likely that the two to three servings that we do eat per day at one point in time (wild fruits and vegetables) did provide us with enough antioxidants, minerals, and vitamins to be healthy.

A couple of things we can do….

1. Support the remineralize movement. http://www.remineralize.org/

2. Buy organic non-intensivly grown produce from local farmers markets.

3. Grow your own heirlooms and supplement your soil with products like “ocean grown”.

3 09 2010
Jo

Brilliant work. Don’t change your writing style. It will be read by more people than the dry and dusty works. And you link to the dry and dusty stuff if people want to read it! LOL.

I gave up wheat a few months ago. I’m hoping my flaxseed muffins are still safe.

3 09 2010
gallier2

Fine analysis, but anything less was not expected, seeing how good you’re previous work was. As for the danger of wheat germ, you can read on Petro Dobromylskyj hyperlipid blog (http://high-fat-nutrition.blogspot.com/) a lot about the possible mechanism of its dirty deed.
http://high-fat-nutrition.blogspot.com/search/label/Wheat%20Germ%20Agglutinin%3B%20how%20little%20is%20enough%3F
and especially
http://high-fat-nutrition.blogspot.com/search/label/Wheat%20and%20lactose%20%281%29

3 09 2010
Eating Any Wheat = Heart Disease

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3 09 2010
Ray Sawhill

Bravo!

(And bravo! as well for delivering all this fascinating math-y info in a sweet and fun-to-read way.)

3 09 2010
O Primitivo

CHINA STUDY: Which diet components are associated with more and less vascular disease mortality? – http://www.canibaisereis.com/2010/08/07/china-study-diets-associated-with-vascular-mortality/

3 09 2010
David

Interesting analysis. An interesting fact though is that in India, at least in the 1960′s and 70′s, the overall pattern was reversed so that the wheat eating Northern regions had 1/7th the coronary heart disease rates of the rice-eating Southern regions.

The north and south also differed in that the northerners ate more sugar and much more fat (about 22% of calories, mostly dairy and ghee; the southerners ate only 3% of calories from fat). The Northern diet was also more course and fibrous than the Southern diet. These facts are all from articles by Malhotra from 1967 through 1973.

4 09 2010
Derek S.

I suspect that has more to do with the fact that the amount of wheat consumption in the north was still relatively low compared to western countries, and, most importantly, the absolutely huge amount of PUFA consumed in the south as compared to the north. Gigantic PUFA load will pummel tiny wheat load any day of the week.

4 09 2010
Collden

There is the slightly more blatant paradox that one of the least unhealthy western nations (France) is also among the top consumers of wheat in the world, their consumption being significantly greater than the far more unhealthy UK and US.

Obviously there is more to the picture than wheat. They do have a diet very low in PUFAs.

22 01 2011
Warren Dew

There is clearly more to the picture than wheat.

One must keep in mind that while the wheat eating areas of China get more coronary heart disease than the rice eating areas, the rates are still far below those of the U.S.

It seems quite likely to me that overweight and obesity, or possibly caloric surplus or affluence, is an independent risk factor that is needed for the levels of coronary heart disease found in the U.S. The French are less fat, and so might get less heart disease even with more wheat.

It would be interesting to compare the French rates of CHD with those of the Chinese wheat and rice eating areas.

5 09 2010
Miki

The Indian Chapati eaten in the north is made from a low gluten wheat variety. Monsanto was trying to steal a patent on it. google chapati gluten monsanto.

5 09 2010
Miki

Regarding the French note that they leave the baguette to ferment for 11 hours prior to baking. in other western countries it is max one hour.

9 09 2010
Andre Chimene

David, I am currently working in India. India has the largest vegetarian population in the world. It is also, according to the WHO, #1 in Diabetes, #1 in Cancers and Heart Disease. 60% of all heart disease patients live in India. They are following America off a cliff attached to a rocket. They have replaced their coconut oils and ghee with more carbs. They revere their doctors who are educated in the US and UK. Of course, they are all wrong. Thank you Denise! Your light is bright and I won’t screw up on my web/blog lest you burn me to ashes with your gaze.

17 09 2010
Dana

They’re going to find that saturated fat is *heart-protective.* You just watch. Of course it’ll be another hundred years before the government and the experts admit it.

3 09 2010
A

No wonder Loren Corain wrote the article called “The Whole Wheat Heart Attack”.

David, very interesting can anyone account for this Indian paradox?

3 09 2010
moksha

wound not the 18+% more fats have a mitigating effect (in theory…)? 3% fat is pretty slim and (again in theory) could cause lotsa problems on it’s own–

3 09 2010
moksha

fingers spell this please : would…

3 09 2010
mango genocide

write a book
RITE UH BUK
right. A. Book.
Book. Write.
Booookie righty?
Rye Ta Buwk.

Please?

3 09 2010
moksha

di toe
dit tow
ditto-o-o

go for it, neisy

3 09 2010
Lisa

I’d like to see you tackle this question with NHANES data next.

3 09 2010
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3 09 2010
Wheat is Murder

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4 09 2010
J A Deep

Hi Denise, Have you considered one (blindingly obvious) combination: Wheat and fructose are murder!

Limiting the combination of fructose and wheat (and other sources of fructans) is working in treatment for functional gut disorders and irritable bowel syndrome. See http://www.healthsystem.virginia.edu/internet/digestive-health/nutrition/barrettarticle.pdf

4 09 2010
Ann

How is it possible that a study evaluating the relative merits of a vegetable-based diet failed to track vitamin B12 deficiency? It boggles my mind!

4 09 2010
Norman Yarvin

Using BMI rather than weight doesn’t completely control for the effect of increased heights. Yes, BMI was meant for that purpose, but it was designed by idiots: it’s defined as weight divided by the square of height, whereas really it should be divided by the cube of height. (If you scale an object up, keeping the same shape, the weight goes in proportion to the cube of the height.) So to really do the analysis right, do your regressions against BMI divided by height rather than just BMI.

5 09 2010
Bushrat

That would be an improvememt, but BMI does not control from muscle mass or body type either.

Athletes and manual labourers have more muscle mass than others.

6 09 2010
Tony

Indeed, you can have two people who are both 5’10″ and weigh 200 lbs who would both be considered overweight using BMI (BMI = 28.7) but if one is a bodybuilder with a body fat of 8% and the other person has a body fat of 30%, then they will behave very differently health wise.

4 09 2010
Stancel

Ann,

B12 deficiency takes time to develop. The body does recycle it, and the RDA is only 2.4 micrograms a day. I don’t think the poor rural people in China who ate plant-based diets were 100% vegan. If they ate some meat once in a while, their B12 levels, while not optimal, would be enough. Especially if they ate organ meats, which have high levels of B12, which probably were more available to them.

Vitamin B12 was discovered after experiments curing anemia with liver. Liver has a very high level of B12. Beef liver has 245 micrograms of B12.

I think occasional meat consumption can be enough to avoid B12 deficiency. It’s probably true for long-term vegans, health problems on vegan diets probably have also to do with lack of important minerals like zinc and iron.

4 09 2010
Diabetes - the global epidemic

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4 09 2010
4 09 2010
malpaz

Amazing….i run an ED recovery blog based on primal living, and SOOOOOO SOOOO MANY ED recoverees are on the whole grain bandwagon and i fear for their health, really. ‘sandwich thins’ ‘whole gran bread’ and they all think they are healthy. trying to spread the word from all levels!!

4 09 2010
Angela Quattrano

I have often thought since giving up wheat some years back that celiac was not the only autoimmune disease that was caused by wheat consumption, that it may be a factor in diabetes 2 as well.

Factory-produced vegetable oils have only been available for human consumption since the advent of factories to extract them. They are not a human food in quantities larger than one could consume during ingestion of the whole food itself. Of course, hydrogenated vegetable oils are completely unnatural.

Unfortunately it is very hard to get people to make changes like this in their diets for experimental purposes, considering how difficult it is to give up such ubiquitous foods. People who have already given up wheat have usually done so in response to major health issues, which may make them less useful for data.

Consider writing a diet book if further analysis continues to implicate wheat and polyunsaturated vegetable oils.

5 09 2010
moksha

do remember that most veg oils were used pre-ww2 as PAINT THINNERS – post ww2 the industry needed to save itself ’cause petroleum thinners were nudging them out – so why not feed them to the masses? works for all those chemical sugar subs as well–

8 09 2010
Chris Masterjohn

Hi Angela,

Actually a number of randomized, controlled trials — even a couple double-blind ones — have been conducted substituting polyunsaturated oils for animal fats. The reason they are no longer done isn’t because they can’t recruit participants but because these trials gave them blatant disproof of their hypotheses and they didn’t like the results, so they stopped conducting them.

If you’re interested in the role of PUFAs on health, I have something roughly equivalent to a small book on the topic. On my web site you can purchase my first PUFA report, which is 25 pages with 119 references and is a critical review of the requirement for these fatty acids (which is in most cases infinitesimal):

http://www.cholesterol-and-health.com/PUFA-Special-Report.html

I have a much simpler article with a funner historical narrative coming out in the Fall Wise Traditions which should be available for free on westonaprice.org in a few months. In the next month or so I’ll becoming out with the second PUFA report, which will be a similarly massive critical review of the benefits and harms of consuming large amounts of PUFA (omega-3 or omega-6).

Chris

8 10 2010
Chris Masterjohn

Hi Angela,

Too my surprise, I found out this morning that my PUFA article for Wise Traditions is up online much earlier than I expected. I haven’t even gotten the journal in the mail yet! But here it is:

Precious Yet Perilous — Understanding the Essential Fatty Acids

http://www.westonaprice.org/know-your-fats/2021-precious-yet-perilous.html

Enjoy,
Chris

8 10 2010
Chris Masterjohn

Hi Angela,

The article is up much earlier than I expected! Here it is:

http://www.westonaprice.org/know-your-fats/2021-precious-yet-perilous.html

Enjoy,
Chris

5 09 2010
moksha

veg and SEED oils that is…

5 09 2010
anon

Flax oil is linseed oil, aka paint thinner.

The issue is more with oils like corn and rapeseed, aka “Canola” = CANadian Oil Low Acid (the acid is erucic acid, which is poisonous, so it’s removed — presto, it’s a ‘healthy oil’).

You can’t ordinarily squeeze oil from a kernel of corn…you need a long sequence of bizarre industrial processes, after which the oil is completely rancid and full of free radicals.

5 09 2010
A

Use of vegitable oils goes at least back to ancient Egypt.

5 09 2010
anon

The ancient Egyptians (hardly models of health, btw) didn’t do this:

http://www.springerlink.com/content/j031q8l38xq1wkr2/

Drink up!

5 09 2010
anon
17 09 2010
Dana

You’re thinking of olive oil. Even now that is not labeled as vegetable oil. Neither is flax oil, which may have been used anciently as well.

5 09 2010
Perfect Health Diet » Wheat and Obesity: More from the China Study

[...] Minger, who is fast making herself the world’s leading interpreter of the China Study, has continued her analysis of the raw data. Denise points out that in China, wheat eaters are “fatter with fewer calories”: In both China [...]

5 09 2010
Colin

Hi Denise,

I wanted to point out a confounding variable in studies done on subjects eating whole wheat versus those eating refined grains.

As Stephan Guyenet and the folks at Weston A. Price Foundation point out, traditional cultures have always soaked, sprouted, or fermented their grains (and legumes) before consuming them. Thus, studies that look at whether whole wheat (and other grains) are more beneficial than refined are generally problematic. If you don’t soak, sprout, or ferment the whole grain to disable its defenses & ease digestion, it’s probably going to wreak *even more* havoc than refined carbohydrates due to the phytic acid, lectins, and other nast-nast components.

I hope this helps!

Cheers,
Colin
UC Irvine

5 09 2010
Angela Quattrano

I have always been doubtful of the claim that fermenting grains changes them much, if at all. Here’s how I look at it:

First of all, it is carbohydrates that ferment, not proteins fragments, which people react to.

Even then, the amount of fermentation it would take to completely ferment the carbohydrates in a loaf of bread would turn the dough into a mucky syrup.

6 09 2010
Stancel

Clearly, fermenting dough with yeast changes it enough to make it rise fast in warm conditions. Also helps produce phytase enzymes.

Fermenting dairy creates such creations as sour cream and yogurt.

Fermenting grape juice allows the yeast to change the sugars to alcohol.

6 09 2010
Angela Quattrano

@Stancel
It is not clear at all that the small amount of fermentation of soluble sugars in bread dough that it takes to generate the carbon dioxide necessary for it to rise is significant of much of anything in this context. It is certainly not evidence that any change is happening to neutralize whatever negative effect the gluten (or other harmful) components might be causing.

I’m not sure how dairy or grape juice fermentation is relevant to the topic being discussed. But unlike fermentation of yeast dough for bread and dairy for yogurt or sour cream, both of which is a minor change, the fermentation of grape juice changes its composition considerably. In that case the fermentation is generally complete, or almost complete. It is also true that wine is not merely fermented, but also quite purified to remove large quantities of yeast that were produced in the process of fermentation.

Denise, is it possible to turn on Extended Comment Options?

6 09 2010
neisy

I just fiddled with the comment settings — it should allow deeper nesting now!

8 09 2010
Chris Masterjohn

Angela,

Like other’s have pointed out, the point of fermentation has little to do with the carbohydrate.

In any case, protein fragments absolutely do ferment (bacteria need amino acids to live just like we do), and it has been shown that 24 hours of sourdough fermentation leads to the near complete elimination of the immunogenic peptides found in wheat:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14766592

Of course as you point out it’s going to seriously diminish the “baking quality” of the bread.

Chris

17 09 2010
Dana

Fermentation does only occur with starches and sugars, yes. However, the fermentation process creates an acidic environment, which goes on to break down protein chains.

It’s been found that one peptide in the wheat gluten molecule is responsible for the celiac response. Guess what is the only process that can break down that peptide? Bacterial fermentation–the kind you get in a sourdough fermentation process.

It’s not a hundred percent, but I’ve heard of people with gluten sensitivities who reacted very little or not at all to breads that were fermented for at least 12-24 hours before baking.

17 09 2010
Ted Hutchinson

Sourdough Bread Made from Wheat and Nontoxic Flours and Started
with Selected Lactobacilli Is Tolerated in Celiac Sprue Patients
These results showed that a bread biotechnology that uses selected lactobacilli, nontoxic flours, and a long fermentation time is a novel tool for decreasing the level of gluten intolerance in humans. Free Full text at link.

17 09 2010
Ted Hutchinson

Sorry I’ve just duplicated the link Chris provided.

6 09 2010
Stancel

I have to wonder how whole grain rich in nutrients and fiber would be worse than its refined form.

Whole grains are low GI. Refined grains are high GI.

6 09 2010
gallier2

There is marked difference between nutrient content and nutrient availability. Whole grain may contain more nutrients, but contain also much more things blocking the absorbtion of these nutrients (phytic acid, lectins). Bran contains substances that even absorb more magnesium than they already contain, giving an overall net loss of mg.
This is a fundamental problem of the RDA values put on boxes and supplements, they tell what’s in the food, not what your intestinal tract is able to get from (that’s one of the possible way to look of the problems of wheat, asymptomatic coelics may become nutrient starved and compensate by overeating).

6 09 2010
Angela Quattrano

The difference in glycemic load between whole grains and refined grains is trivial. Cooked white long-grain rice has a glycemic load of 24, while brown long-grain rice has a glycemic load of 22. The huge difference is in preparation. The glycemic load of brown rice flour and white rice flour is identical at 81.

22 01 2011
Warren Dew

Maybe the fiber found in grains isn’t good for you, and there are as many antinutrients as nutrients.

Traditional agricultural societies eat grain for calories, not for nutrients. The rice eating areas of China that had less heart disease eat highly milled white rice that they wash before cooking, making it essentially just starch.

5 09 2010
Sue

When is your book “Wheat Is Murder” coming out? This information is so important, you’d be doing the public a disservice if you DIDN’T publish this!

5 09 2010
kib

Just a little thumbs up for “cutesy”, here. I absolutely love the combination of shorthand foreshadowing with clever language, and strong scientific data to back up the quickie version. To me it makes the complicated read worth delving into because I immediately understand where the data is leading, and then I get to go dig in and understand it cerebrally (or not, should I choose the easy route). A presentation with a foreword that’s as dreary, complicated and abstract as the data it represents doesn’t invite the reader to delve further. I think Neisy’s one-two humor-science punch is dynamite.

6 09 2010
Monte Diaz

Since going wheat free I lost 20 pounds and reversed my insulin resistance in ONE month. My fasting glucose has gone from 120 to anywhere in the 90s. I attribute this all to going grain free. The truth shall set you free.

6 09 2010
Angela Quattrano

I’m not sure about the truth setting me free. I gave up gluten and got plenty of health benefits for myself without any knowledge that wheat may be toxic for everyone out there. I certainly cannot observe whether it has impacted the health of my heart in the 10 years or so since I gave it up.

I know at the same age both my parents were diagnosed with diabetes.

If it turns out to be correct, and people give up wheat based on that knowledge, they are the ones who will be set free by the truth.

Certainly Denise gave up wheat because of specific harm it did to her, unaware that doing so might also result in benefits unrelated to alleviation of her allergy symptoms.

22 01 2011
Warren Dew

It’s not clear that the benefits are unrelated to alleviation of allergy symptoms. Wheat protein fragments seem likely to be implicated in both.

6 09 2010
Kim Øyhus

I found this interesting comment on wheat, myopia, and fetal development on a deleted part of Julian Assanges blog:

What can we say of people who wear glasses? Of people who score well on IQ tests, a disproportionate number have glasses (but not the other way around). One of the most powerful predictors of myopia is is (overly) rapid growth during embryogenesis of the visual system. When non-grain societies with no history of myopia are introduced to grain diets myopia sores. Typical polynesian rates are now 30-50%. This seems to be caused by IGF-1 (insulin related growth factor) bursts following ingestion of high GI grain products during pregnancy. Different parts of the lens and supporting tissue respond to these bursts at different rates, resulting in selective overdevelopment and global distortion. But IGF-1 has receptors all over the body and nervous system; it seems probable the unusual lens growth is reflected in the rest of the visual system. 3.7Kg is the average birthweight of an Australian infant. 4.2Kg brings an infant 3x more likey to develop myopia. But what hidden strengths and ailments does growth induced myopia also bring?

6 09 2010
moksha

“But what hidden strengths and ailments does growth induced myopia also bring?”

not to digress… but years ago i read the book “geek love” where circus parents intentionally fed their preggy mother and offspring all sorts of toxic/radioactive glop to create better circus freak shows – one result being a brilliant flipper boy who became a really bizarre guru (for people selective and intentionally “amputizing” themselves.) wierd (but compelling) read–

I don’t deny that a whole variety of stresses can create idiot or genius, but the possibility of the occasional wondrous exception does not particularly fill me with inspiration to feed my 2.5 year old (or myself) toxic wheat, PUFA’s, allow her pumped full of mercury-laden vaccines etc etc.

looking for the silver lining is nice and all, but…

7 09 2010
Stan Bleszynski

This is a fascinating topic that ought to be researched but unfortunately isn’t! I hope some young brilliant scientists (ahem…) with a lot of free time will take it up since we can’t really count on the tenured academics. Cornell Syndrome! 8-:)

I have to add that there is also a strong possibility that the enormously accelerated growth (height) of children in the 20-th century, first in the N.America, then after the WWII, in Europe, may have something to do with the increased wheat consumption or with the increaed unfermented non-sourdough wheat consumption. I was always baffled by the paradox that wheat (if it is wheat) has done so much damage to human populations only after around the 1900-dreds, not before! Another possibility (other than the lack of sourdough processing) would be some change in the wheat strain around the end of the 19-th century, that increased it’s toxicity. Perhaps wheat plant is just more extelligent than the human society?

7 09 2010
Sebastian

“I was always baffled by the paradox that wheat (if it is wheat) has done so much damage to human populations only after around the 1900-dreds, not before!”

That’s because it was only towards the late 19th century that the industrial production of baker’s yeast took off on a big scale and bread leavened this way has since replaced the traditional sourdough in most parts of the world.

8 09 2010
Angela Quattrano

Early civilizations were aware of celiac, they just didn’t know what caused it. For the most part, they had no idea about the cause of any diseases (aside from bad luck and witchcraft). The state of science was such that there is no way they could have figured out that something that everyone ate at every meal was causing diseases they had never heard of, which most people didn’t live long enough to get anyway.

The fact that this data is finally being analyzed is no indication that people have not suffered from the results of eating wheat since the beginning of the Neolithic age.

While I have a lot of respect for early scientists like Weston Price, the fact is that their results were often severely limited by their crude methods. Much of what he proposed is irreproducible speculation. For instance, their website say that bone broths are a critical part of the diet of early humans and a major source of calcium. But that is impossible, since bone broths cannot have been consumed at all before the creation of cooking vessels, which took place in the last 10,000 years, less than a drop in the bucket as far as human evolution is concerned.

The same is true about fermented dough, which was regularly eaten in many places prior to the availability of leavening. I have yet to see a single piece of evidence that the fermentation of soluble sugars in wheat dough from naturally-occurring yeasts has a measurably different effect on the composition of the biological or physical components of the dough from that of fermentation using purchased yeasts.

Since I cannot imagine a way that simple, brief carbohydrate fermentation can drastically change the protein profile of bread dough (without also impacting its handling qualities), and I have never seen a single piece of evidence that such changes actually take place, all I can say is please…

Show me your evidence.

8 09 2010
Sebastian

I don’t know why you keep harping on about simple carbohydrate fermentation. What proper fermentation of grains and legumes does above all is that the process can destroy much of the phytic acid that these foods contain, thereby making more of their mineral content bio-available for healthy bones and teeth. Lectins btw. can be broken down this way too, with gluten apparently being the exception. But then it seems that older kinds of wheat and other grains didn’t have anything close to the gluten content of their modern versions in the first place.

8 09 2010
Angela Quattrano

If you’ve got the research that shows how much phytic acid and lectins are destroyed in this way, and how this has a demonstrable effect on a person who follows this diet as opposed to the other, please link me. You know, the study that shows that people who only eat sourdough bread have fewer of certain diseases than those who always eat bread fermented with store-bought yeast, with all other aspects of their diet the same. Otherwise, it is speculation, as was the idea that wheat was good for everybody but celiacs prior to the analysis done in this study.

There are lots of different microorganisms that act on grains, among them ergot: completely natural and highly toxic.

13 09 2010
anand srivastava

It is well known that a properly prepared sourdough bread does not cause the reaction on celiacs as normal breads.
So yes bacteria does ferment even proteins. Yes the process is much slower and requires longer fermentation process, rather than quick rise yeast.

Bacteria will eat anything. They will grow on anything. You just have to make sure only the right ones are growing.

There are enough indications, when the fermentation is not going in the right directions. Bad bacteria will cause decoloration or may give bright colors. In nature generally bright colors indicate poisonous substances.

They will give off bad smell, but you have to learn the right smells.

You learn the tricks of eating healthy if you are born in a traditional society, but unfortunately even us in India, are rapidly losing that heritage.

13 09 2010
13 09 2010
Angela Quattrano

That is very misleading. The article you are speaking of is obscure. The “bread” is only made from 30% wheat flour, which means it could not have resembled what we normally call bread. And the particular process is nowhere available and cannot be duplicated outside the laboratory. So if it is “well known”, and most people have never heard of this particular experiment, then this is nothing but an unsubstantiated opinion for them.

It is also “well known” that it is safe for celiacs to eat spelt bread, which is utterly untrue. It is “well known” that most people who claim to be allergic to peanuts are either mistaken or lying. It is also “well known” that eating cholesterol is the cause of heart disease. The list of common misconceptions is endless. But one thing you won’t find is people with celiac eating sourdough bread. Visit a celiac support forum sometime and see what they have to say about that.

There is nothing especially perfect about traditional diets. Some are good, others are full of toxic stuff and low in nutrition. The Japanese traditional diet is white rice, miso soup, and pickles, not fish and fresh vegetables. It is responsible for stroke and osteoporosis in so many that elderly people are often bedridden there.

The “Mediterranean diet” we keep hearing about is based on the diet that people who were too poor to buy meat would have eaten during times of extreme poverty. The diet gurus then added in fruit, vegetables, fish, olive oil, etc., because they knew that the upper middle class that needed to accept the diet in order for it to take hold would never have done so without those things.

Each country on the Mediterranean has a different traditional diet, and none of them are that one. In the same way, there is no traditional “Asian” diet, but I recently saw someone describing the Asian diet and how wonderful it is. Idealizing traditional diets does us no favor.

17 09 2010
Dana

How in the world is white rice traditional for any Asian culture? You need machinery to strip it in large amounts. It would have been available only to the rich.

22 01 2011
Warren Dew

Water driven milling machinery has been around for centuries.

1 12 2010
moksha

hi angela – appreciate your informative input – but how ’bout this one: Weston Price found almost perfect teeth and excellent health (never one case of tuberculosis) in an isolated swiss mountain village historically eating primarily properly soured rye breads and raw dairy products –

not as “scientific” as you may need, but rather supportive of the “proper” fermentation process on grains.

22 01 2011
Warren Dew

Angela, I agree with most of what you say, but I have to pick one nit. Broth can easily be prepared in a leather vessel using heated rocks to boil the liquid, a technology available during the paleolithic.

3 02 2011
Another Halocene Human

Seconded. According to ‘Guts and Grease’, Native NA Indians used ruminant bladders as containers to ferment foods . . . Even people who have not discovered the magic of pottery can be incredibly resourceful.

17 09 2010
Dana

It’s irresponsible to deliberately produce a child whose existence will be more painful, more difficult, and/or more expensive than average, when you know you can take steps to prevent that occurring.

My first choice is that people would take care of themselves and eat properly so that the child can develop normally. If I were Queen of the Universe or something.

My daughter was born with vesicoureteral reflux into both kidneys because I did not get enough vitamin A during pregnancy. I would give anything to have known what the risks were and to be able to have prevented it. They’re telling pregnant women now not to eat liver, did you know? It seems my daughter has found one benefit in that she can hold her pee better than other kids her age (she’s five) and can hold more of it. But that’s not worth the defect, or the greater risk of end-stage renal failure she will face later in life. I was told that, by the way, by a woman who worked for an organ transplant clinic–not by my daughter’s urologist. (Nor did he tell me about vitamin A. I had to find that one out on my own.)

8 09 2010
Tony K

Hi Denise,

I put some sample correlations here: http://www.emotionsforengineers.com/2009/07/some-sample-correlations.html
for anyone who wants to see what they look like.
Cheers,
Tony

8 09 2010
veggienft

.
Wheat causes the small intestines to release zonulin. Zonulin cuts digestion short by making the small intestine walls porous. An “essential” product of protein digestion is adenosine. Adenosine is the blood’s queller of inflammation. Arrested digestion yields a shortage of adenosine in the blood.

As zonulin makes the small intestine lining porous, the contents which wash into the bloodstream include zonulin. In the bloodstream zonulin makes other membranes porous. It causes leukocytes to release the cytokine TNF-alpha. TNF-alpha causes other leukocytes to release a genetics-dependent cascade of interluken and Cox cytokines. These cytokines inflame adenosine-depleted tissue throughout the body. The tissue in the front line of this fight is circulatory tissue. The inflammation causes yet other immune agents to mount autoimmune responses which further damage tissue.

…..Atherosclerosis
..

9 09 2010
Marco

Yea! Kinda like how when you drink too much water you die!

10 09 2010
Ralph

Great comment.

9 09 2010
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9 09 2010
Tim Lundeen

Woodford in his book Devil in the Milk notes that wheat gluten results in a BCM-7 homologue that could explain the damage caused by wheat and other gluten grains.

9 09 2010
Tim Lundeen

Great blog, fascinating stuff. Thanks for doing this!

9 09 2010
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10 09 2010
Matt Joseph

OK so if the studies are all there and it’s pretty obvious that wheat is bad for us, pretty much in all forms, how are people still able to promote these diets that allow you to eat basically whatever you want as long as you keep your calories under control and exercise a lot? Are we ever going to wake up? Oh wait, different opinions means more people can make a lot of money…I almost forgot.

10 09 2010
Angela Quattrano

It is only “obvious” to us that wheat is bad for us because Denise just did this analysis and published it here, and we were able to read it. Without this analysis, the data is just a great many columns of number.

Other researchers are still running around in circles, designing studies to prove that animal protein/fat causes most heart disease, etc., and that whole grains and polyunsaturated fats are a cure for it. The results are usually inconclusive at best, yet they declare vindication for their hypothesis and hope nobody reads too deeply into it.

Even when a well-designed study shows clearly that the dominant paradigm is seriously flawed, leading to incorrect dietary recommendations, the medical establishment seems to think that the sensible and conservative thing to do is to continue to support the disproven status quo. Don’t expect to see much movement anytime soon.

11 09 2010
Marco

It really isn’t just about the money- without grain there wouldn’t be enough calories for humans to perpetuate.

11 09 2010
Ted Hutchinson

wheat breeding may have contributed to increased prevalence of celiac disease But in our search for greater yield we could have considered the fact α-9 gliadin peptide is capable of binding the “CXCR3″ receptor, increasing zonulin production thus weakening tight junctions, inevitably increasing cancer, autoimmune disease incidence, particularly so in vitamin D deficient populations.
This research shows there are safer varieties we could be breeding.

17 09 2010
Dana

Don’t tell that to people who never eat wheat at all; last I checked none of them are sterile, at least not as a result of avoiding wheat. The traditional Inuit (as opposed to the ones eating industrial food) are a great example. I promise you they still have kids.

You’re right that wheat, along with other grains, has caused a population explosion worldwide however. This is not a good thing.

24 09 2010
James

Correct! That is in effect the biggest -unspoken- problem. So instead of getting rid of grain products, because it is not just wheat -oats is highest in phytic acid-, we should make efforts to make it fit for consumption

22 01 2011
Warren Dew

We could just make efforts to switch to rice.

11 09 2010
Maxim

Wow… Thank you so much for this info!

12 09 2010
veggienft

I haven’t read Tom Campbell’s book, but I’ve read a couple of writeups. Apparently Campbell analyzed the China study data, and observed a positive correlation between milk and disease. Campbell erroneously attributed this correlation to animal fat and animal protein. The protein in milk is casein, a series of glycoproteins. These are plant-type proteins, not animal proteins.

So it was interesting that Denise ran a multiple regression, analyzing milk against wheat:

——————
Milk. Is moo juice a cardiovascular foe obscuring the relationship between wheat and heart disease? Probably not, according to the data—which isn’t surprising, given how few counties even drink the stuff. When running daily milk intake alongside wheat intake, wheat keeps its positive correlation (beta = 0.67, p<0.001) and milk actually turns a bit inverse, though not significantly so (beta = -0.07, p=0.47). No model shows a significant association between milk and cardiovascular disease, so I'm crossing this one off the list of potential confounders.
——————

While holding wheat constant milk exhibited a 7% negative correlation. Wouldn't this point to a symbiosis between the effects of wheat and milk?

Since the discovery of zonulin and its relationship to dietary gluten people have speculated that wheat acts a vehicle, placing casein peptides into the bloodstream. This analysis seems to confirm this relationship.

13 09 2010
moksha

in contemplating all the discussions, my partner and i have speculated that calling “celiac disease” a disease is about as absurd as calling mercury poisoning (from amalgam or…) “mercury disease” or something of the sort – it seems we all have different tolerances for all potential toxins and the only reason we call celiac a “disease” is that we assume that eating wheat should be normally healthy and tolerated- when in fact, eating wheat probably causes (facilitates) all kinds of at least low-level health issues in most (if not all) people compounded by each of the other not-always-beneficial things we consume (sugar, dairy, etc) –

i remember a discussion about the sudden burst of a variety of allergy conditions downwind after mount st helens exploded – one pretty convincing theory was that the ash was, at the very least, an irritant that pushed many asymptomatic but still allergic people over the edge causing them to manifest reactions to often very different potential allergens.

looks like wheat with all it’s yummie nasties could be a very similar confounder, yes?

13 09 2010
veggienft

Sayer Ji: Gluten causes disease in all humans. Celiac disease is a normal protective response.

http://www.patienthealthyself.info/Celiac_Disease_Article.html

The deeper the research into wheat disease, the stronger the professional divide. Alessio Fasano discovered zonulin, the chemical which wheat elicits to make the gut walls porous. Fasano has kept pretty quiet about zonulin’s true implications, considering how widespread they are. Virtually everyone responds to wheat the same way, with zonulin and leaky gut. The zonulin response is an immune response, meaning that “cutting back” on wheat does little good.

Together wheat and sugar are responsible for virtually all chronic diseases treated by western medicine …..all autoimmune and inflammatory conditions….. Cancer research is even pointing fingers at this combination.

In its pure form, the implication of wheat research is that we need doctors and medicines at less than half the current rate. We just need to stop eating wheat. In a vacuum how would western medicine view this news? How would western agriculture view this news? How would an addicted public view this news?

13 09 2010
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14 09 2010
Ned Kock

Hi Denise.

I did some analyses on the China Study II data. The main dependent variable I used was mortality from all cardiovascular diseases. In the first analysis below, I combined two measures which yielded good validity/reliability coefficients through a factor analysis. In the second, I used mortality from all cardiovascular diseases only for ages 35-69, which should exclude things like RHD.

http://healthcorrelator.blogspot.com/2010/09/china-study-ii-cholesterol-seems-to.html

http://healthcorrelator.blogspot.com/2010/09/china-study-ii-wheat-flour-rice-and.html

Looking at your post, the fascinating thing to me is that our findings are very consistent, even though we are using different data, variables, analysis methods, and statistical software tools. (I am using data on males and females separately, and controlling for the effect of sex.)

One thing that is a bit different, but not in a major way: My analyses suggest that rice has a protective effect. And that is not entirely due to rice displacing wheat (or vice-versa), but certainly is in part due to that. That is interesting; it may or may not be due to interaction effects. Byron found a study suggesting an interesting connection between rice and angiotensin proposed by some folks at Temple and Wakayama universities.

15 09 2010
15 09 2010
Scott Miller

Great, great article. I’ve been spreading it around to numerous online groups and friends.

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16 09 2010
Dave

Denise, I’m very impressed with your comments on wheat, but I think there is an alternate way of interpreting the data that you should consider.

I understand why you don’t like wheat and I know it’s not good for people with celiac disease (1%) or gluten sensitivity (15%). But in spite of this it’s typically associated with lower rates of Western diseases. Then what could be going on in rural China? Wheat is low in lysine and many people believe a lysine deficiency contributes to heart disease. And the average person there eats close to the minimum requirement for protein. So in wheat eating regions a lot of people probably aren’t getting enough lysine. The people of Tuoli as you’ve noted eat a lot of wheat and have a very low rate of heart disease. The meat and dairy they eat would give them plenty of lysine. And in other counties where increasing animal protein is associated with less heart disease it could be because supplying a few extra grams of animal protein corrects the lysine deficiency. The benefit of animal protein in this situation can’t be generalized to eating a diet almost entirely of meat, because after the first 10 or 20 extra grams people are no longer lysine deficient.

And how are other cultures doing who eat a lot of wheat? In a region of Sardinia where people live longer than almost anywhere else in the world, they eat a lot of whole wheat bread. And in the Mediterranean region known for its low rate of heart disease they eat a lot of whole wheat.

Protein promotes growth, so it’s reasonable to expect people who eat more protein to be taller and weigh more than people who were marginally deficient in protein as children. Rice contains 9.3% protein and wheat contains 16% protein. A vegan getting all their protein from wheat could easily meet their protein requirement while that would be impossible eating only rice. And there are several almost vegan counties in rural China that are probably getting most of their protein from rice.

(The less finely ground the the lower the glycemic index. So wheat berries, bulgur, cracked wheat or sprouted grain would be better than bread made from finely ground flour.)

17 09 2010
Doug

@Dave who wrote:
“I understand why you don’t like wheat and I know it’s not good for people with celiac disease (1%) or gluten sensitivity (15%). But in spite of this it’s typically associated with lower rates of Western diseases.”

Can you cite studies for this? To substantiate the point, I am interested in studies that compare “no wheat” diets to “wheat diets.” Or, did you mean to say that “whole wheat” diets are typically associated with lower rates of Western diseases than are “processed wheat” diets?

17 09 2010
neisy

Hey Dave,

You raise some good ideas; thanks!

Lysine is an interesting theory, but the China Study II data measured total lysine intake, and it’s not significantly associated with wheat consumption or heart disease mortality. Even if lysine does play a role independently, there’s something else about the wheat-eating regions driving up heart problems.

Protein promotes growth, absolutely — but it doesn’t fully explain the correlation between wheat and BMI, because other protein variables (total protein, animal protein, plant protein, protein as a percent of total calories, etc.) are not as strongly associated with BMI as wheat itself. Also, wheat has a stronger association with weight than height, so it seems body size is not rising proportionately — although it’s impossible to tell if the higher weight is due to fat or to lean mass.

Even though there’s plenty of evidence showing whole wheat is better than refined, there haven’t been any studies examining heart disease trends in wheat-eating people versus wheat-free people. This is the main issue. In Western nations, and also in the healthier regions you mentioned, nearly *everyone* consumes wheat, so it’s impossible to isolate its relationship to disease within a population. There are rarely any equally matched wheat-free control groups to use for comparison. The unique thing about China is that there are regions that consume zero wheat adjacent to regions that consume it liberally. So as far as epidemiology goes, the China Study may be more useful in terms of looking at potential wheat effects than Mediterranean population studies and others where wheat eating is universal.

Also, RE: Sardinia, looking at overall longevity isn’t necessarily a reflection of heart disease trends. Two populations can have very different average lifespans but identical rates of heart disease mortality, if in one group the folks who don’t die of heart disease live a long time due to absence of other diseases, genetics, social factors that influence longevity, etc.

Thanks for the comments Dave!

17 09 2010
neisy

Also, I should add that even if wheat does play some sort of role in atherogenesis, many modern foods are probably even worse — so populations that eat wheat but avoid other junk and have overall better nutritional status will still have lower rates of heart disease than Westernized nations.

22 01 2011
Warren Dew

Wait … where’s the “plenty of analysis” that suggests whole wheat is better than refined? It seems to me the two studies you thought good enough to cite indicated that wheat germ and bran are bad, suggesting that whole wheat is actually worse than refined.

18 09 2010
veggienft

The statistics which cite celiac disease around 1% of western populations identify celiac disease by intestinal biopsy, the “gold standard” of celiac diagnosis. Most celiacs suffer damage for 10 years before it gets bad enough to be detected by biopsy. Celiac disease is merely one class of “gluten intolerance”, or wheat-caused autoimmune disease. Wheat-caused autoimmune diseases are provisionally detectable by antibody assay. A large obstacle in detection comes from the severity of wheat-caused autoimmune attack. It depletes the antibodies of a large portion of sufferers to undetectable levels.

http://www.csaceliacs.org/GreatMimic.php

I’ve seen the statistic you quoted, that gluten sensitivity affects 15% of the population. This statistic is merely a wild estimate. There is no standard for diagnosing gluten sensitivity. Period. The body makes no detectable antibodies. Gluten sensitivity ranges from inflammatory diseases, like the atherosclerosis cited here, to type 2 diabetes, arthritis, thyroiditis, nerve diseases, etc. The 15% statistic covers none of these diseases because they can only be correlated with wheat using a gluten elimination diet.

Remove a cause, and the effect disappears. What you have is two missing things ……scientifically invalid.

Add this. All of these wheat diseases are age related and progressive. Even where researchers can cite wheat disease statistics, the statistics are snapshots. At any given time 1% of a population has severe celiac disease. Untreated, celiac disease leads to death from cancer and other diseases.

Given: a disease which strikes people over 70 years old. victims are sick for 1 year
before dying.

BUT ….The disease strikes EVERYONE.

A “snapshot” population study would report that the disease only affects 1.4% of the population.

……So it’s not a problem ……..Right? …….Wrong.

You have to be careful with disease statistics.
..

21 09 2010
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22 09 2010
Sam Huff

I would be interested in an analysis including income as an in.dependent variable. As one of my fiends pointed out, you have to be able to afford wheat to eat wheat and wheat is more expensive than rice as well as higher status in China.

24 09 2010
Jeffrey D

No. Rice is preferred to wheat throughout China. Emperors ate rice. Although people like some variation and of course traditional dishes are built around local foods, which tended to be wheat in the north and rice in the south. There’s a horribly dated book called “Foods of China” by E.N. Anderson that’s probably good reading for people who have more than a passing interest.

Anyway, particularly back when the study was being done, there was no such thing as rich. It was Communist. Villages ate what was local grown.

And, high-status in China means, you’re ordering a bunch of dishes of food, more than could be finished. Wheat and rice dishes are considered filler and wouldn’t be eaten at a high-status meal.

23 09 2010
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23 09 2010
navigator

I’ve been reading your blod along with Whole Health Source (WHS), both VERY interesting! This is just a simple guess, but as it was mentioned on WHS, processed and long stored wheat contains large amounts of phytic acid, which blocks mineral absorbtion, whereas rice doesn’t. Without adequate mineral supply (like magnesium for example), heart disease may occur…
Can’t wait for part 2 anyway!

23 09 2010
navigator

oh and btw, I wouldn’t argue that whole wheat is healthier than processed wheat. In fact, if you read Stephan’s blog (Whole Health Source), studies are rather showing the opposite!
And @Dave: I don’t know where you got that, but Sardinia and all mediterrean regions typically DON’t eat wholegrains (at all). White bread and white pasta is their staple food. I know it because I was there many many times. However, what I’m not sure of, is how they process their grains – for example, if they ground it freshly or not, which makes a big difference in phytic acid content. Wheat flour that has been stored for long periods of times especially do not contain any phytase at all, which is responsible to reduce phytic acid. On contrast, freshly grounded and soaked wheat has a lot of phytas activity, thus reducing phytic acid. But if that’s correlated with heart disease, I can’t tell…

24 09 2010
Jeffrey D

North and South China have so many fundamental differences between the genetics and the lifestyles of the people living there, and “eat wheat” vs. “doesn’t eat wheat” will essentially come down to “lives in the North” vs. “lives in the South.” Trying to break it down to one variable is simply not possible.

Americans probably eat more wheat than Mexicans, but you could never hope to use the difference to pinpoint an American medical problem on the consumption of wheat.

27 09 2010
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3 10 2010
SeigeA

You’re more or less my idol. Super:)

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30 10 2010
David

Regarding the rabbit study where wheat germ caused the worst atherosclerosis: besides it being a rabbit study, I would be suspicious unless the rancidity (or lack thereof) of the wheat germ was carefully measured and documented. Rancid fat of any sort is worse than any non-rancid fat, and wheat germ is very prone to rancidity. If the researchers made no mention of this, I would have difficulty placing any weight on this study.

2 11 2010
moksha

google up a list of grains and their phytic acid content and …

presto! – wheat germ has HUGE amounts of the nasty stuff–

2 11 2010
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4 11 2010
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9 11 2010
Zoe

Man I love this blog! It’s so cool =)

Thanks Denise!

9 11 2010
Zoe

Btw I’ve heard that sometimes doing more physical labor will increase the appetite, perhaps that caused the wheat eating counties to increase their calorie consumption (in this case wheat) and the ensuing result was weight gain. A possibility perhaps?

I remember taking my friend to the gym to help her lose weight. Strangely enough, after every workout, she would beg me to drive her to Mcdonalds for some chicken nuggets! She ended up eating more than usual after a gym session. Which in turn didn’t actually help her lose much weight in the end.

19 11 2010
Rachel

I… I think I love you.

:3

8 12 2010
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10 12 2010
Michael Godfrey

Hi Denise, while my wife and I were traveling across country yesterday, listening to the XM Doctors show, a doctor called in and reported the following. He had worked in Hawaii a number of years and never had a patient with a low vitamin B-12 value. He moved to Montreal and has found over 500 patients with low B-12 values in just a few years. Some of these had extremely low numbers (200). One of the causes of low B-12 is that B-12 is blocked in the intestines by some factor that prevents it from moving into the intestines. I was thinking that perhaps Hawaiians eat very little wheat while those in Montreal could be expected to consume a lot. Potential for another study? I admire you so much; keep up the good work. There are other statistical treasures to mine.

14 12 2010
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20 01 2011
Francine

I’m so glad I found you!
I’ve read the China Study and found it very interesting, but I never thought of looking at the “wheat” connection.
In my own little study (need for loss of weight ;-) the only way I can lose is to leave the wheat behind while eating the normal amount of calories. And I thought it was just me!

15 12 2010
21 12 2010
TWC

What can function as a wheat substitute? I don’t know how to make a sandwich without bread.

22 12 2010
Zoe

hmm.. wheat substitute. There are rice flour, tapioca flour, potato flour, quinoa flour – whether these will give the same results as wheat flour you’ll have to test. I have made pancakes with the above mentioned flour types. Making bread is a whole different matter (maybe add yeast or baking soda?)

22 12 2010
Fat is good; Carbs are bad … Could it be? | The Daily Bounce

[...] if you’re ready for a few statistics, here’s a great look at the correlation between wheat flour and heart [...]

22 12 2010
WOD Wednesday 22/12 Clan CrossFit Glasgow | Clan CrossFit

[...] An interesting read This entry was posted in WOD and tagged clean, run, thruster. Bookmark the permalink. ← WOD 21/12 Clan CrossFit Glasgow [...]

23 12 2010
How wheat fattened the world: part 2 « Weight loss, gallstones and the obesity crisis

[...] have is any way of comparing wheat with no wheat, although others have done their damndest, such as Denise Minger’s dissertation of China and Wheat : Wheat is the biggest marker of obesity and heart disease. Also check out  Perfect Health [...]

7 01 2011
Primal/Paleo Diet as a Platform for Modern Nutrition Part #1 « daiasolgaia

[...] so, what’s this Wheat is Murder [...]

11 01 2011
Pat D.

Regarding this section of the report::
Cardiovascular disease: The only “Western” problem without “Western” risk factors ….

I would like to suggest that – as you suggested earlier – Vitamin D3 deficiency is a factor.

Researchers know that the further we move away from the equator the greater the incidence of chronic disease.

19 01 2011
Wheat We Won’t Eat – and Why… carb, low carbohydrates, carbohydrates, « daiasolgaia

[...] 7) And last but hardly least, Denise Minger, the rising star of nutritional study analysis and sensible, intelligent explanations exposes the real conclusions that infamous Dr. Colin Campbell so ineptly missed in his The China Study data book and analysis – Wheat is Murder? [...]

20 01 2011
DaiaSolGaia - Discoveries For A Full LIfe » Wheat We Won’t Eat – and Why…

[...] 7) And last but hardly least, Denise Minger, the rising star of nutritional study analysis and sensible, intelligent explanations exposes the real conclusions that infamous Dr. Colin Campbell so ineptly missed in his The China Study data book and analysis – Wheat is Murder? [...]

24 01 2011
When Did Cholesterol First Become Public Health Enemy #1?

[...] I know that I can’t be the only person who goes into a brief anger seizure whenever I hear that terrible meme. I’m not sure which is worse, the saturated fat one, or its ridiculous cousin “heart healthy whole grains”. Ridiculous in that wheat can be indicated as a correlative factor in heart disease when looking at the data from the China Study. [...]

24 01 2011
Primal/Paleo Diet as a Platform for Modern Nutrition Part #1 | DaiaSolGaia

[...] so, what’s this Wheat is Murder [...]

26 01 2011
“Eat Like A Predator, Not Like Prey”: Paleo In Six Easy Steps, A Motivational Guide – GNOLLS.ORG

[...] Do not eat anything made with ‘flour’. No bread, no pasta, no cereal, no crackers, no cookies, no donuts or danishes. Period. This is your most important step.Flour is ground-up seeds. What eats seeds? Birds and rodents. If it’s poisonous to humans until we grind it into powder and cook it, and it causes mineral deficiencies and birth defects unless we add vitamins, it’s not food. (Read more about lectins, phytic acid, and the role of grains in autoimmunity and heart disease.) [...]

15 02 2011
Food Allergies and Food Intolerances Reveal The True Human Diet – GNOLLS.ORG

[...] USA, and substantially higher for relatives of sufferers. (Note that wheat most likely has adverse health effects for everyone, not just the frankly [...]

15 02 2011
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7 04 2011
Lisa

Love the post! Astonishing amount of work –agree it should be published. Wheat hates me and I hate wheat, believe it’s truly the bane of the human existence! On PhysOrg.com they say that CT scans of Egyptian mummies reveals rampant heart disease. They ate copious amounts of wheat and it wasn’t even the kinds we have today that have increased protein molecules.

12 04 2011
26 04 2011
HeatherT

Nice post!

One potential reason why wheat might help cause heart disease is that it appears to temporarily open up the tight junctures between the gut cells (even in bunnies!). This might cause over-absorption of iron from the environment … normally the gut prevents over-absorption. Iron is known to damage the heart, and there can be a lot of it in well water. Was well water mentioned in the China Study? People who drink from rural wells have a higher chance of getting Parkinson’s, which is another potentially iron-related disorder. The body produces insulin when iron is absorbed in a meal, to sequester it. See:

http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/439591_6

The question for me has been: if iron is so regulated in the body, how come much of the US has too much of it? I think wheat might be the culprit in that. The fact wheat bread also has a fair bit of added iron makes it doubly problematic.

26 04 2011
042611 – Tuesday | CrossFit Will County

[...] Do not eat anything made with ‘flour’. No bread, no pasta, no cereal, no crackers, no cookies, no donuts or danishes. Period. This is your most important step. Flour is ground-up seeds. What eats seeds? Birds and rodents. If it’s poisonous to humans until we grind it into powder and cook it, and it causes mineral deficiencies and birth defects unless we add vitamins, it’s not food. (Read more about lectins, phytic acid, and the role of grains in autoimmunity and heart disease.) [...]

28 07 2011
The China Study on Wheat | Health Wiki information

[...] Study on Wheat July 28, 2011By admin Denise Minger has just put up another great China Study post that’s worth reading if you haven’t already. Denise has been busy applying her [...]

30 07 2011
The China Study on Wheat | Health is a Gift! | Health, Medicine, Disaseas, Cures, Fitness, Women Health, Men Health

[...] Minger has just put up another great China Study post that’s worth reading if you haven’t already. Denise has been busy applying her [...]

31 07 2011
Page not found « Raw Food SOS: Troubleshooting on the Raw Food Diet

[...] The China Study, Wheat, and Heart Disease; Oh My! [...]

15 09 2011
Bill Duong

So I’m curious. What’s the theory/conclusion (if any) on fermented wheat (bread) compared to plain ol’ wheat germ? I’m also wondering WHY there would be a difference between the two. Did I not read carefully enough?

22 09 2011
“Forks Over Knives”: Is the Science Legit? (A Review and Critique) « Raw Food SOS: Troubleshooting on the Raw Food Diet

[...] Wheat has a correlation of 0.67 with heart disease (really flippin’ high!)—which is not only the strongest association between any food and heart disease, but remained sky-high even when I tried adjusting for anything that might be confounding it.* [...]

24 09 2011
Debunking Myths About An Animal Based Diet | EUPHORY

[...] Wheat has a correlation of 0.67 with heart disease (really flippin’ high!)—which is not only the strongest association between any food and heart disease, but remained sky-high even when I tried adjusting for anything that might be confounding it.* [...]

26 09 2011
pale

I don’t eat greains for 3 years now… I feal great!

1 10 2011
davoid

EFFECT SIZE?

In your first two graphs, what are the units on the x-axis? Is it grams/day? If so, it looks like there is no difference in risk of coronary mortality eating 0-300g/day of wheat. However if you eat 300-600g, which, frankly, is a shedload, you double your risk, which is not a huge increase given the magnitude of the difference in behaviour. Though I might be mistaken about this; what are the units on the y-axis?

I applaud your efforts but, if I’m right or close to right in my reading of the data you’ve presented, a doubling of risk due to eating a whole loaf of bread a day plus some noodles is a smaller biological effect than “Wheat is Murder” would imply.

What do you reckon?

3 10 2011
Garry Gallagher

Awesome work Denise. Here’s a recent interview with preventative cardiologist Dr William Davis on the evils of wheat: http://www2.macleans.ca/2011/09/20/on-the-evils-of-wheat-why-it-is-so-addictive-and-how-shunning-it-will-make-you-skinny/

17 10 2011
phil walker

i am a first time user to a computer,& the comments on the China study has me stuned! Such a goldmine-keep it up!

17 12 2011
The China Study on Wheat | General Diseases | All Medical Information

[...] Minger has just put up another great China Study post that’s worth reading if you haven’t already. Denise has been busy applying her [...]

20 12 2011
The China Study on Wheat « Mojume

[...] Wheat Challenge Denise Minger has just put up another great China Study post that’s worth reading if you haven’t already. Denise has been busy applying her [...]

23 01 2012
Wheat and Disease | Sam Snyder

[...] • The China Study, Wheat, and Heart Disease; Oh My! [...]

22 02 2012
Tim

Great analysis, thanks!

“Maybe they’re all buoyant from celiac bloat.”, as to why inner “wheat eaters” had less mortality from downing than their coastal counterparts had me ROTFL!

One needs to take care when someone starts throwing stats at you!

29 02 2012
Is it true that animal protein causes cancer & other disease? | naturegirls

[...] the strongest association between any food and heart disease, but remained sky-high even when I tried adjusting for anything that might be confounding it.* -This, my friends, is why correlations can lead us [...]

11 03 2012
AHHURA » Blog Archive » Meat and Dairy for C patients ?

[...] want to read a study on something the China Study actually showed, go to the source, Denise Minger: http://rawfoodsos.com/2010/09/02/the-china-study-wheat-and-h Wheat ingestion raised the incidence, including mortality, of cardiovascular disease by almost [...]

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30 03 2012
5 Health Hacks to Improve Your Being « ellisonesque

[...] things you could be having. Grains (including whole grains) create waves chaos in your gut. Autoimmune diseases and insulin resistance is connected directly to eating grains. Giving up grains has so many benefits. From more energy, to weight loss, when you cut grains you [...]

25 04 2012
Silvina

What’s the difference between r-squared and beta coefficients? They seem to measure the same thing (how well a variable explains the data).

16 05 2012
Mariano Arseneau

I’m having a small annoyance. I’m unable to subscribe to your rss feed for some reason. I’m using google reader by the way.

9 06 2012
Roger Harris

Use great caution in basing any health decision on correlation studies. In statistics 101 my prof emphasized, correlation is not causation, correlation is not causation! correlation is not causation!! and if you torture the data long enough you can prove anything. I use correlation analysis as well as other mathematical systems in decision making but mostly in the hard science areas where results are more reliable. Medical research is notoriously flawed which leading experts and polymaths agree on, here is a link from one of the worlds best known authorities on the subject. http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2010/11/lies-damned-lies-and-medical-science/8269/. Shockingly 90% of medical research is estimated to be flawed.

Why are correlations in medical research less reliable indicators than in other sciences? Because the basic units are not consistent, An atom is same today as it was 100 years ago, or the same on Earth as it is on Jupiter, but human biology is very complex and definitely varies from person to person. One of the key questions that should be asked of any study is “to which population do these results apply?” The answer is in the case of medical research, in the strictest sense, only to the population studied. The mathematics of statistical analysis is relatively straight forward and is canned in software programs, but the interpretation of results from any study is a different skill altogether and may even be considered an art.

I am not taking any stand on the healthfulness of wheat as a food, just frustrated on the unreliability of medical research results. We know drug companies influence medical studies, but I suspect that pop culture ideas and attitudes also pervade in selecting and analyzing the results in some cases. I think that correlation studies are useful as an heuristical tool to promote further analysis when a strong association is indicated.

20 06 2012
20 Healthy, Easy Toddler Breakfasts (That Are Not Cheerios) | Laura's "Rules"

[...] skeptical about wheat, and in particular, about highly refined wheat products. (See, for example, this exploration by a critic of The China Study of the raw data from counties in China on wheat consumption and its [...]

3 08 2012
Jamie

I agree with Roger. Many bold statements made here throughout the comments, and premature assumptions without hard evidence – which the China Study does not show despite Denise’s correlations. I understand the reason people are so strongly hating on wheat is that they’ve stopped eating it for a few months, or years, and they “feel great”. What could be the cause of that? What are they replacing it with in their diet? Vegetables, fruits? Enjoying the high of hypoxanthine in meat? Or not much, which means a reduction in overall intake of calories that might have been in excess before? Is the weight loss fat or body mass in general – could the loss possibly not actually be a ‘good thing’? (stunted growth, deficiencies) It’s something to think about, and if you want your opinion respected it would be better if it wasn’t only opinion – you know what I mean. Everybody has a friend who is always raving about the latest thing who jumps ship at the next latest thing and blows with the proverbial and hypothetical wind.
I work out at CrossFit, and I listened to the paleo pitch. It has a lot of holes. I’m going to play along…If that’s the way everyone ate for so long (which is a bold claim in itself), why did they stop? And what happened in the world after they did? Why is a poster above saying we have a population explosion in an agricultural society wherein we should all have short, painful lives as described by another poster? Why are the people who eat strict paleo (a diet ascribed to a people that the “ascribers” invented) so aggressive and short-tempered, and constantly obsessed with what they eat and how it will balance them out and reduce their inflammation? Ok, that was a stereotype, but really – I’ve observed a personality change in a few individuals after eating this way for a time. This is also a diet which gets abused, as it differs in no way from the SAD in that people focus on the meat part and overlook the fruit and veggie part, and still struggle with dessert and recreational substance vices.
I have a hard time believing that a plant which looks and acts like a lot of other plants is as poisonous as some claim. What hasn’t been mentioned here is that there is a population of people who enjoy a healthy existence and *gasp* eat wheat. No bloating and indigestion. No weight problems. Strong, athletic, brilliant, talented, happy, well-balanced people who manage life just fine. Maybe we should look at them.
Something’s just not right here. Wheat is valuable. It has a purpose. I believe it’s as food. You may not believe that, but you are still not convincing enough. I would think more should be done to look at
a) corrupt supply
b) gross misuse
This would be more helpful.
D&C 89

Also, on a side note, to the woman bemoaning vaccination. I read the research, the blogs, listened to both sides. What I found was that no proof has been provided that immunization causes the host of ills it’s fingered for (other than anaphylaxis), but it’s clearly proven that immunization does prevent a host of ills. My friend just endured watching her perfectly healthy 6-month old niece die of whooping cough in an outbreak in an area with a 48% immunization rate. She is not the first and it will get worse. Smart? I would say that until it happens to you, you cannot imagine the hurt immunizations can keep us (and others) from.

7 08 2012
Christin

First – I love Demise’s page. It is my favourite even amoung the other sites that use scientific data to give nutritional advices. But I’m not used to analysing data myself. So I really tried to figure the variables of the 1989 China Study II questionnaire graph using the site Demise referred to (ctsu.ox.ac.uk) but I still don’t get them… is that daily wheat in grams? mortality in a mil? I’d be very happy if anyone enlightened me ^_^°

1 09 2012
Denise Minger: Are USDA Guidelines Hogwash? « THE … | Eating tips for teenagers

[...] with the patterns in the Oxford-Cornell China Study, which showed that wheat was the single biggest contributor to BMI out of any diet variable. Calories didn’t matter. Fat didn’t matter. Weight followed the [...]

21 09 2012
“Forks Over Knives”: Is the Science Legit? (A Review and Critique) | Justin Penoyer

[...] Wheat has a correlation of 0.67 with heart disease (really flippin’ high!)—which is not only the strongest association between any food and heart disease, but remained sky-high even when I tried adjusting for anything that might be confounding it.* [...]

27 09 2012
cjrmd1

I couldn’t possibly read all of these comments so I read none. You will excuse me then if I am repeating someone’s observation. In the rabbit study mentioned at the end it may have been WGA, wheat germ agglutinin, that caused the atheromatous lesions. It’s known for being quite nasty to endothelium. It’s a lectin like ricin eeeks.

28 09 2012
Carla Beryl McClure L.Ac.

WOW! serious amount fo comments…..I think support for your osition has come in William Davi’s “Wheat Belly”, a cardiologist who was recently on CBS talking about his book & how wheat is poison for us…….I have the book making it’s rounds with my patients.

28 09 2012
cjrmd1

Hi Carla, Just be sure not to get sucked into the nonsense that wheat is the worst or only grain to be cautious of. True WGA is toxic, and many, many people are being harmed by the gliadins and exorphins. But to suggest that a very “chubbers” patient can drop 50 pounds in a couple months by simply not eating wheat borders on fraud. All grains are “new foods” and as such promote ill health when eaten in large quantities. In my upcoming book (go to http://www.inflaNATION.com for excerpts from various chapters), I list over a dozen serious problems that lead to obesity and some will shock you! The point is that although having a cute name like Grain Gut or whatever is well cute, it oversimplifies the problem of obesity. just like Dr. Lustig saying HFCS is the only cause of obesity.

Sorry but to get lean there is no magic-bullet-single-food-theory that works. I have been zero grains for 6 months now and my pants size keeps shrinking but my weight has incredibly stayed almost exactly at 165 # but I’m now over 3 inches leaner from a 32 down to a 28/29, oh did I mention that I feel great?

A simple look at the glycemic indices of a few other grains/starches reveals corn flakes to be way worse in elevating blood sugar clocking in at if I remember correctly 88?, as well as the baked russet potato with a GI over 100.

Wheat’s paltry contribution is a GI of about 71, durum semolina pasta is about 41 which makes some forms of wheat simply ducky . I am using the Harvard GI’s of 100 common foods as a reference since it is the most accurate and the one professor Willett uses.

Davis’s book is really just a repackaged low carb diet book. The contents of which have been better touted by many before him such as Barry Sears, Atkins, and Dr Eades. As such he even says as much (in the fine print only of course) when commenting on losing body fat that simply stopping wheat and eating other grains is not likely to cause weight loss (but you just said that if I stop wheat…..duh).

Which is why I call it a “grain belly” because all grains make you fat, while some grain like corn in a flaked form is a far greater poison as far as glycation and elevating serum insulin and blood sugar.

There is nothing new in that book. For a better treatise on low carb read the Anti-inflammation Zone/the Omega Zone/Toxic Fat all by Sears, Protein Power, The Paleo Prescription, the Paleo Solution-here he includes useful exercises for the novice which is very nice, and one more: the groundbreaking Paleolithic Prescription first published way back in the 80′s.

9 11 2012
Matilda

I’m not sure why but this web site is loading incredibly slow for me. Is anyone else having this issue or is it a issue on my end? I’ll check back later on
and see if the problem still exists.

30 12 2012
loecher

Dear Denis,
thank you for being so transparent with your analysis !
I personally find it difficult to believe any study which makes it impossible to reproduce at least the more basic graphs.
In this case, I followed the link to the “already available online data” from Oxford and downloaded the 1989 data: http://www.ctsu.ox.ac.uk/~china/monograph/chdata.htm

I was amazed at the percentage of missing values and wanted to confirm these with you or anyone else following this blog:
- 415 out of 621 records have no entry for wheat flour intake
- From these 206 records 139 do not have any corresponding values for any of the suggested mortality variables M059, M065, M063, M062.

So when I join the mortality data with the wheat intake column I am left with a pitiful 67 rows, that cannot possibly be true ?

Thanks a lot!
Markus

5 02 2013
masonicboom

Denise appears to have used dWHEAT (Q158) for much of the analysis in the article, rather than WHTFLOUR (D038), which I suspect you’re looking at. If you’re handy with R and want to dig deeper, try this: https://bitbucket.org/masonicboom/chinastudy.

5 02 2013
codeandmath

Thanks a lot, that is exactly what I was looking for, super, super helpful ! And yes, R is my stats language of choice

5 02 2013
masonicboom

You’re welcome, Markus. My current plan is to attempt reproduction of all important figures and statistics from these articles. If you’d like to help with that (it’s pretty easy so far) or add some original research, contributions are most welcome!

1 01 2013
Is it true that animal protein causes cancer & other disease? ‹ and the lost girls

[...] the strongest association between any food and heart disease, but remained sky-high even when I tried adjusting for anything that might be confounding it.* -This, my friends, is why correlations can lead us [...]

12 01 2013
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7 02 2013
Mason

Update: those links are now dead and replaced by the full reproduction attempt, which lives at https://bitbucket.org/masonicboom/chinastudy/src/master/output/wheat.md.

I get a different correlation values for “Correlation between wheat flour and coronary heart disease” at the top of the article, as well as the following correlations with wheat intake:
– “Total animal protein intake”
– “Fat as a percentage of total calories”
– “Total cholesterol”
– “Apolipoprotein B”
– “Daily alcohol intake”

13 03 2013
Curious about Paleo? | CrossFit Hanover

[...] Do not eat anything made with ‘flour’. No bread, no pasta, no cereal, no crackers, no cookies, no donuts or danishes. Period. This is your most important step. Flour is ground-up seeds. What eats seeds? Birds and rodents. If it’s poisonous to humans until we grind it into powder and cook it, and it causes mineral deficiencies and birth defects unless we add vitamins, it’s not food. (Read more about lectins, phytic acid, and the role of grains in autoimmunity and heart disease.) [...]

14 03 2013
Craig Knox

I recently read an article (supposed to published in Lancet) about mummies that were scanned (CT?) for heart disease. Something like 43% had some form of heart disease. The mummies where from various places in the world. Their conclusion- maybe humans have a genetic predisposition for heart
disease.

I began to wonder what all the societies these mummies had in common. Could it be agriculture and SEEDS?

14 03 2013
22 03 2013
Pass the Rolls: Wheat and Hunger - Bug Out Nutrition

[...] theoretically translate to over 72 lbs of fat gained per year(400 x 635 / 3500). No surprise that a recent analysis of the China Study’s raw data revealed that wheat consumption was one of the biggest [...]

4 07 2013
How bad is wheat, really? - Page 4 | Mark's Daily Apple Health and Fitness Forum page 4

[…] there are Chinese who don't eat wheat making it easier to see the correlations. Remember this? The China Study, Wheat, and Heart Disease; Oh My! | Raw Food SOS Reply With […]

18 07 2013
John Carman

I’m left wondering, what the statistics might look like for wheat that has been sprouted to create simple products Ezekiel Bread and Manna Bread??

8 08 2013
Mike

Pet peeve: axes without units labeling.

7 11 2013
What’s The Deal? (Part 2: Wheat and Gluten) | Toronto Naturopathic Doctor - Jennifer Pun, ND - Naturopath - Yonge and St. Clair

[…] http://rawfoodsos.com/2010/09/02/the-china-study-wheat-and-heart-disease-oh-my/#more-532 (Very long and comprehensive, but this blogger has some awesome arguments against some of the most controversial issues in nutrition, particularly he science of the China Study) […]

15 02 2014
Mark

Can someone explain (or point me to a source that can) where correlation figures come from….for example, how do we know that wheat correlates with CAD @ .67)?

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