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		<title>Comment on One Year Later: The China Study, Revisited and Re-Bashed by Questions You Have About American Diabetes Association Diet &#124;</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Questions You Have About American Diabetes Association Diet &#124;]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2012 01:35:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] prevent diabetes &#8211; Hudson Valley PressTwo New Studies Find Surgery Tops Medicine for DiabetesOne Year Later: The China Study, Revisited and Re-Bashed         // initialise plugins jQuery(function(){ // main navigation init [...]]]></description>
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		<title>Comment on The China Study: Fact or Fallacy? by kUrTy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[kUrTy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2012 01:29:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you have read ALL of these comments to get down to this one, would you just reply with a &quot;yep&quot;.   I&#039;m wondering how effective 825 comments are...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you have read ALL of these comments to get down to this one, would you just reply with a &#8220;yep&#8221;.   I&#8217;m wondering how effective 825 comments are&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on &#8220;Forks Over Knives&#8221;: Is the Science Legit? (A Review and Critique) by Forks Over Knives &#124; OPOH</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Forks Over Knives &#124; OPOH]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 12:50:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] the China Study in particular) has reviewed the movie with respect to it&#8217;s facts in this great blog post, so I won&#8217;t bore you with details. There are a few points I&#8217;d like to clarify quickly [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the China Study in particular) has reviewed the movie with respect to it&#8217;s facts in this great blog post, so I won&#8217;t bore you with details. There are a few points I&#8217;d like to clarify quickly [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on For Vegans by Stevil Chemsit</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 02:02:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It comes down to 3 basic guidelines. 

1). Eat Whole foods (you can skip the oysters; non-vegans just like it when vegans eat questionably vegan foods. )

2) Take a B12 supplement, Vit D since we live in boxes all day, but this applies to everyone, not just vegans.

3) Exercise regularly. Exercise increases caloric requirements which will ultimately increase nutrient intake if you follow #1 &amp; maintain your body weight. Exercise has a zillion other benefits from raising HDL, increasing bone density, regulating immune system function.

 While D2 may be (1:1 to 1:10) as effective as D3 5000IU/day seems to work for most folks. If in doubt get tested.  DHA is  recommended, but the science is less clear as to whether it is truly detrimental. As of now,  it&#039;s a &quot;just in case&quot; I take it for that reason. I recommend this brand since it has EPA/DHA  http://www.opti3omega.com/

Taurine, carnitine, creatine, carnosine is all speculative and has little to no scientific evidence vegans needs these.  Yeah, creatine seems to enhance athletic performance, but being &quot;fit&quot; is different from being &quot;healthy&quot; Athletes, vegan or not, have specific needs that differ from normal folks. Caffeine is a better performance enhancing compound, but that doesn&#039;t mean we need it.

I really would like to see the origins of the K2 recommendations , since K1 has been shown to increase bone mineralization, K2 is produced by gut microflora and shown to be absorbed by the body, human breast milk contains primarily K1, so there would&#039;ve been some evolutionary pressure to weed it out if it wasn&#039;t as effective as K2.

 Most of the studies on poly-unsaturated fats &amp; thrombosis are for people who fall into the &quot;therapeutic group&quot; BMI &gt;30, non-vegan, sedentary life-style, etc... There&#039;s a number of confounding variables with these types of studies. 

I&#039;m a vegan (10 awesome years), a professional chemist (food &amp; pharma industry), &amp;  40+ endurance athlete. Pick Up &quot;Vegan for Life&quot; - Jack Norris RD &amp; Virginia Messina RD, and that&#039;s pretty much give you the info you need. 

I don&#039;t just do &quot;OK&quot; I thrive on a vegan diet with those 3 rules.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It comes down to 3 basic guidelines. </p>
<p>1). Eat Whole foods (you can skip the oysters; non-vegans just like it when vegans eat questionably vegan foods. )</p>
<p>2) Take a B12 supplement, Vit D since we live in boxes all day, but this applies to everyone, not just vegans.</p>
<p>3) Exercise regularly. Exercise increases caloric requirements which will ultimately increase nutrient intake if you follow #1 &amp; maintain your body weight. Exercise has a zillion other benefits from raising HDL, increasing bone density, regulating immune system function.</p>
<p> While D2 may be (1:1 to 1:10) as effective as D3 5000IU/day seems to work for most folks. If in doubt get tested.  DHA is  recommended, but the science is less clear as to whether it is truly detrimental. As of now,  it&#8217;s a &#8220;just in case&#8221; I take it for that reason. I recommend this brand since it has EPA/DHA  <a href="http://www.opti3omega.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.opti3omega.com/</a></p>
<p>Taurine, carnitine, creatine, carnosine is all speculative and has little to no scientific evidence vegans needs these.  Yeah, creatine seems to enhance athletic performance, but being &#8220;fit&#8221; is different from being &#8220;healthy&#8221; Athletes, vegan or not, have specific needs that differ from normal folks. Caffeine is a better performance enhancing compound, but that doesn&#8217;t mean we need it.</p>
<p>I really would like to see the origins of the K2 recommendations , since K1 has been shown to increase bone mineralization, K2 is produced by gut microflora and shown to be absorbed by the body, human breast milk contains primarily K1, so there would&#8217;ve been some evolutionary pressure to weed it out if it wasn&#8217;t as effective as K2.</p>
<p> Most of the studies on poly-unsaturated fats &amp; thrombosis are for people who fall into the &#8220;therapeutic group&#8221; BMI &gt;30, non-vegan, sedentary life-style, etc&#8230; There&#8217;s a number of confounding variables with these types of studies. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m a vegan (10 awesome years), a professional chemist (food &amp; pharma industry), &amp;  40+ endurance athlete. Pick Up &#8220;Vegan for Life&#8221; &#8211; Jack Norris RD &amp; Virginia Messina RD, and that&#8217;s pretty much give you the info you need. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t just do &#8220;OK&#8221; I thrive on a vegan diet with those 3 rules.</p>
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		<title>Comment on For Vegans by TheVeganscientist</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 00:39:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Extraction is not difficult, It&#039;s just that plants do not produce D3, ftmp. The Vitashine D3 is the only vegan source extracted from Lichen, which have been shown to contain D3:

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1011134401002342

I got my 25OH Vit D tested in Feb and despite the Chicago winter, my level was a nice solid 47ng/mL on 5000IU Vitashine D3.

The other company basically feeds animal based D3 to bacteria and pretends it&#039;s vegan. The bacteria is just packaging. I believe that&#039;s probably the company you&#039;re talking about.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Extraction is not difficult, It&#8217;s just that plants do not produce D3, ftmp. The Vitashine D3 is the only vegan source extracted from Lichen, which have been shown to contain D3:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1011134401002342" rel="nofollow">http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1011134401002342</a></p>
<p>I got my 25OH Vit D tested in Feb and despite the Chicago winter, my level was a nice solid 47ng/mL on 5000IU Vitashine D3.</p>
<p>The other company basically feeds animal based D3 to bacteria and pretends it&#8217;s vegan. The bacteria is just packaging. I believe that&#8217;s probably the company you&#8217;re talking about.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The China Study, Wheat, and Heart Disease; Oh My! by Mariano Arseneau</title>
		<link>http://rawfoodsos.com/2010/09/02/the-china-study-wheat-and-heart-disease-oh-my/#comment-27315</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mariano Arseneau]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 00:36:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I’m having a small annoyance. I’m unable to subscribe to your rss feed for some reason. I’m using google reader by the way.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’m having a small annoyance. I’m unable to subscribe to your rss feed for some reason. I’m using google reader by the way.</p>
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		<title>Comment on &#8220;Forks Over Knives&#8221;: Is the Science Legit? (A Review and Critique) by Our Kinda-Vegan, Sorta-Paleo Diet Adventure</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Our Kinda-Vegan, Sorta-Paleo Diet Adventure]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 May 2012 02:47:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] we read rebuttals that contradicted many of those conclusions; rather, Charlie scoured the Internet like a madman [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] we read rebuttals that contradicted many of those conclusions; rather, Charlie scoured the Internet like a madman [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on About by And We're Back! &#124; Paleo Parents</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[And We're Back! &#124; Paleo Parents]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 May 2012 00:51:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Denise Minger and Chris Masterjohn &#8211; Denise is even more sweet than she is smart or pretty. Can&#8217;t wait for her book, Death by Food Pyramid! And Chris is a genius. That&#8217;s saying a LOT. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Denise Minger and Chris Masterjohn &#8211; Denise is even more sweet than she is smart or pretty. Can&#8217;t wait for her book, Death by Food Pyramid! And Chris is a genius. That&#8217;s saying a LOT. [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on &#8220;Forks Over Knives&#8221;: Is the Science Legit? (A Review and Critique) by anna</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[anna]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2012 20:45:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is a brilliant summary.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a brilliant summary.</p>
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		<title>Comment on &#8220;Forks Over Knives&#8221;: Is the Science Legit? (A Review and Critique) by Finnegans Wake</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Finnegans Wake]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2012 19:56:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Heart patients should not screw around with their health, but asking doctors who may be working off misguided CW assumptions may not be the best prescription for health.  This diet - FoK - may be better than the SAD if one were making some sort of continuum, but it may advocating dietary practices that are still deleterious to health in long term.  I don&#039;t see anywhere in Denise&#039;s blog that she &quot;debunks&quot; the entire film or its proposed diet (and for the sake of semantics, if parts of the diet are unhealthful, it would require selective data to debunk those parts that were incorrect): in other words, this criticism attacks faulty conclusions and methodologies, not the entire program.

I&#039;m confused by your last statement, but will agree with what I surmise your implication to be:  take charge of your health, and look past industry influence by asking the right questions.  And that is precisely what Ms. Minger encourages her readers to do; she&#039;s even so kind as to furnish us the tools to do so.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heart patients should not screw around with their health, but asking doctors who may be working off misguided CW assumptions may not be the best prescription for health.  This diet &#8211; FoK &#8211; may be better than the SAD if one were making some sort of continuum, but it may advocating dietary practices that are still deleterious to health in long term.  I don&#8217;t see anywhere in Denise&#8217;s blog that she &#8220;debunks&#8221; the entire film or its proposed diet (and for the sake of semantics, if parts of the diet are unhealthful, it would require selective data to debunk those parts that were incorrect): in other words, this criticism attacks faulty conclusions and methodologies, not the entire program.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m confused by your last statement, but will agree with what I surmise your implication to be:  take charge of your health, and look past industry influence by asking the right questions.  And that is precisely what Ms. Minger encourages her readers to do; she&#8217;s even so kind as to furnish us the tools to do so.</p>
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