Comments on: The China Study: Fact or Fallacy?

By: Dorothy Dumbra

Dorothy Dumbra — Thu, 02 Feb 2012 03:11:31 +0000

I am a clinical Nutritionist and Specialized Nutritionist in private practice for over 30 years. Clients with whom i work, even when elderly have no health conditions whatsoever, and are on no meds, in their 80;s. I disagree with the China Study on a number of issues. Too much scientific and emphasizing what the author believes. firstly one must take into consideration, geographic location, genetic makeups, nationality, body types. Dr. Bernard Jensen had to give up a vegan diet as he broke down protein in his system,, and brain, which can be hard to rebuild. And what matters greatly is the type of vegetables, eggs, fish, meat. In my practice I recommend as much as pocketbook allows, all natural, organic flesh protein,poultry, fish. Free range eggs, raw butter. That is, nothing with any hormones, antibiotic, additives and preservatives. Teach people how recognize and select the above. And it does take some background, and good reading.

Know about food combining, not starches with flesh protein, the acids and pancreatic enzymes cancel each other out and nothing is well digested. Fruits an hour before or 2 hours after a meal, as they digest more quiclky and hold up digestion of other foods. No fluids but herb tea with meals, One low glycemic fruit a day,or much less if individual has glycemic dysregulation. Best oils, coconut to cook, grape seed, olive oil, virgin after cooking. The seed and nut oils we have heretofore been told to use are manipulated and become saturated. Coconut is naturally saturated. Refrigerate all seeds, nuts and oils, use nuts raw and unsalted; fleturized, ground or as a nut milk

Regular cleanses to detox important, as cannot have immaculate health without this. I muscle test for the different types which I may use. Kiinesiology gives me a perfect blue print for the body any of it’s difficiencies, organ imbalances, structural misalignments, allergies, and what productt and how much for how long. There are only 2 companies with whom I work, and do not send client to health stores, and I cannot test those products for them.

I recommend xylitol, pure maple syrup, agave, or honey in modest amounts. Xylitol fights infection, supports immune and dental. Try for half of the diet raw, and use organic, fresh pressed vegetable juices, carrot, beet, greens, like parsley, or other greens. Juicing and detoxing can be adjusted to the persons particular needs, or illnesses. Half fresh lemon, dash of cayenne and maple syrup , the Master cleanse, in filtered water every 2 hours

There are simple,inexpensive methods for ridding heavy metals, radiation, from scans and x rays, etc.cancer. Important supplements coming out; D3, curcumin, transresveratrol, powerful anti inflamatories, products to protect against memory loss and Alzheimers, Purified water, Celtic grey or French salt, not iodized, no sea salt, very commercialized. Raw cheeses in moderation, fermented products important. AND digestive enzymes, as they help to digest unwanted cells and toxins in the body in addition to digesting food. Quality of food is the thing, and avoiding sugars, heated fats, over cooked proteins, limit red meat or cut out, and opt for non shell fish, quality poultry, or just fish. There is much, much more. The emotional is greatly connected with the physical, and the spiritual, all interconnected, so important to clear out these blocs, which I use several technics for depending upon the situation. Blood sugar, thyroid, fatigue, chronic fatigue, digestive problems, etc.I adjust diet and balancing accordingly. Dorothy Dumbra, e mail ddumbra4cats@yahoo.com

By: CarlaA

CarlaA — Tue, 31 Jan 2012 15:55:01 +0000

Hi Denise,

I would be really interested to hear what you have to say about the science behind the GAPS (Gut and Psychology Syndrome) diet. It seems to me that they both (GAPS and China Study) talk about some of the same physical malfunctions and how they arrive in the body, but are almost opposite in how one can heal those malfunctions. I’m sure you have other things to do, but I thought I’d put a bug in your ear about it in case you were interested:)…

Really interesting critique of The China Study — I am always grateful for people who encourage others to think for themselves and have the courage to add their perspective on important issues.

Thank you, Denise.

By: T. Colin Campbell | who-they-are

T. Colin Campbell | who-they-are — Mon, 30 Jan 2012 03:53:16 +0000

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By: Philip Gillibrand

Philip Gillibrand — Mon, 30 Jan 2012 00:59:19 +0000

Denise,
I admire your dedication and enthusiasm. But seriously – it would have taken Colin Campbell and a TEAM of researchers years to work up the data from the China Study. But apparently you can re-analyse all the data, all by yourself, in a month and a half !! It’s ludicrous. Putting the numbers into Excel or R, and pressing the ‘Regression’ button does not constitute a proper scientific analysis. I am not suggesting that that is literally what you have done, but to suggest that you can do a thorough analysis in such a short period of time is ridiculous. I speak as a professional scientist (though in a very different discipline) with some understanding of data analysis. It is an unfortunate trait these days, in many disiplines (bit particularly climate change) that non-professional scientists think they can do a better job than the experts. I suggest that, rather than posting this as a blog, that you write up your methods carefully, as any scientist would do, an present your methods as well as your results. You could even submit them, with your results and conclusions, to a scientific journal, where your methods would be thoroughly scrutinized. However, I doubt you are game for that, but I think you should at least describe your methods on this blog.

By: gager

gager — Sat, 28 Jan 2012 23:37:46 +0000

For some reason your stupid post reminded me of one of my favorite you tubes.

By: Alex

Alex — Sat, 28 Jan 2012 16:48:25 +0000

The average American has always eaten a diet containing meat, so clearly the poor health of modern average Americans is not due to meat being in the diet. The nutritional quality of today’s factory farmed meat is certainly lower than natural pastured meats, but a much bigger change in the American diet is the refined plant products, like sugar, industrial seed oils, processed packaged foods, etc. On average, Americans also consume too many calories and get insufficient exercise.

By: Author

Author — Sat, 28 Jan 2012 14:56:26 +0000

I just came across this post while looking up ‘The China Study.’ I plan on studying this particular study and wanted to see what people think.
It is interesting to say the least.
To me diet is a Science and you cannot argue with Science because it is factual. If you do not approach diet as a Science then it is strictly opinion based and becomes a ‘he said she said’ game.
Nothing scares me more than a diet of dead animals and animal by products. If you need any evidence as to how awful it is for us just take a look at the average American.

By: Wheat and Disease | Sam Snyder

Wheat and Disease | Sam Snyder — Mon, 23 Jan 2012 15:02:35 +0000

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By: Peter

Peter — Mon, 23 Jan 2012 13:33:10 +0000

An inability to read a critique of one’s position usually means you are still knee deep in the grip of ideology.

Damn good words of wisdom

By: Neil E

Neil E — Sun, 22 Jan 2012 18:48:06 +0000

From what I’ve read, A2 is well tolerated by humans and is the type found in breast milk/ goats milk, which would answer the paradigm about how nature could eff up breast feeding.