Comments on: A Closer Look at the China Study: Meat and Disease http://rawfoodsos.com/2010/06/01/a-closer-look-at-the-china-study-meat-and-disease/ Rescuing good health from bad science. Wed, 16 May 2012 12:50:32 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: Chase http://rawfoodsos.com/2010/06/01/a-closer-look-at-the-china-study-meat-and-disease/#comment-25527 Fri, 13 Apr 2012 17:04:45 +0000 http://rawfoodsos.com/?p=187#comment-25527 Hey Denise! I love your blog and really appreciate your fact-based analysis. I just have a quibble with your stats 101 on p-values: “Most statisticians like to use a p-value of 0.05 or less, which means there’s only a 5 in 100 possibility that your results are merely a fluke.” That’s not quite what it means. It means that if there was no real relationship between the two variables, you would still find these results (or more extreme) 5% of the time. (see “common misconceptions”: http://www.graphpad.com/articles/pvalue.htm).
I find your critique of the study, and other stuff on your blog, to be quite valid and enlightening. I wouldn’t want anyone to discredit your data analysis skillz based on that p-value explanation. Keep up the good work! I love reading your stuff.

]]> By: on- the- fence tom http://rawfoodsos.com/2010/06/01/a-closer-look-at-the-china-study-meat-and-disease/#comment-20897 Wed, 29 Feb 2012 07:05:17 +0000 http://rawfoodsos.com/?p=187#comment-20897 “RAW MILK IS PROBABLY THE REASON” the Tuoli people are an exception to animal protein statistic claimed in Campbell’s book. He probably left it out to minimize confusion since the American people all(99%) drink junk milk.

]]> By: Forks Over Knives Indeed! http://rawfoodsos.com/2010/06/01/a-closer-look-at-the-china-study-meat-and-disease/#comment-19398 Fri, 27 Jan 2012 17:29:40 +0000 http://rawfoodsos.com/?p=187#comment-19398 [...] study, (Dr. Campbell,) is the main doctors pushing the Forks Over Knives diet. Denise Minger has a better post debunking the science behind the [...]

]]> By: ‘The China Study’ and ‘Forks over Knives’, links to critiques | Julianne's Paleo & Zone Nutrition Blog http://rawfoodsos.com/2010/06/01/a-closer-look-at-the-china-study-meat-and-disease/#comment-13388 Mon, 28 Nov 2011 02:41:42 +0000 http://rawfoodsos.com/?p=187#comment-13388 [...] A Closer Look at the China Study: Meat and Disease (Associations the “meat” variable has with various diseases in China.) [...]

]]> By: Trace http://rawfoodsos.com/2010/06/01/a-closer-look-at-the-china-study-meat-and-disease/#comment-12096 Sat, 05 Nov 2011 15:37:37 +0000 http://rawfoodsos.com/?p=187#comment-12096 She stated the study did not include data on physical activity. The average caloric expenditure for the entire population of China which you cite is not helpful in comparing outcomes across the studied population groups. Do you have evidence that the study did in fact include details of physical activity by subject or county?

]]> By: glidingcalm http://rawfoodsos.com/2010/06/01/a-closer-look-at-the-china-study-meat-and-disease/#comment-9322 Fri, 23 Sep 2011 14:47:53 +0000 http://rawfoodsos.com/?p=187#comment-9322 fabulous post!!!!! Thanks for the hard work and research!!

]]> By: “Forks Over Knives”: Is the Science Legit? (A Review and Critique) « Raw Food SOS: Troubleshooting on the Raw Food Diet http://rawfoodsos.com/2010/06/01/a-closer-look-at-the-china-study-meat-and-disease/#comment-9268 Thu, 22 Sep 2011 21:38:24 +0000 http://rawfoodsos.com/?p=187#comment-9268 [...] Meat and disease [...]

]]> By: Forks Over Knives Review | Ready State Fitness http://rawfoodsos.com/2010/06/01/a-closer-look-at-the-china-study-meat-and-disease/#comment-6539 Sun, 15 May 2011 22:06:40 +0000 http://rawfoodsos.com/?p=187#comment-6539 [...] A Closer Look at the China Study: Meat and Disease (Associations the “meat” variable has with various diseases in China.) [...]

]]> By: Jason Kotenko http://rawfoodsos.com/2010/06/01/a-closer-look-at-the-china-study-meat-and-disease/#comment-2357 Sat, 02 Oct 2010 21:56:32 +0000 http://rawfoodsos.com/?p=187#comment-2357 John,

One, the article you linked to above was written in 2006. The article you are commenting on was written in 2010. So there is no possibility that this was a rebuttal to these arguments.

Two, I skimmed over the rebuttal and saw no effort on Dr. Campbell’s part to use any numbers, present any graphs, or provide any reasoned response to his critics. Instead, it appears that Dr. Campbell has written a quite lengthy example of the “Appeal to Authority” fallacy – the authority being himself and his history as a researcher. This is how gurus speak, by appealing to matters unrelated to the data at hand to convince one of a position. Denise has made an argument with raw, hard numbers, which should be the true measure of quality in any scientific argument.

]]> By: What food is 75% protein - Page 2 http://rawfoodsos.com/2010/06/01/a-closer-look-at-the-china-study-meat-and-disease/#comment-2308 Wed, 29 Sep 2010 14:59:56 +0000 http://rawfoodsos.com/?p=187#comment-2308 [...] Originally Posted by Beuford All the studies mentioned are about colon cancer and breast cancer. There are also studies which say that there is a link between meat and cancer. I like to think that having an acidic body will increase your risk of cancer, and eating too many strongly acidic foods(meat) will make your body more acidic. If the bulk of your diet is fruits and vegetables you won't run into this problem. USATODAY.com – Study links processed meat to cancer A Closer Look at the China Study: Meat and Disease Raw Food SOS: Troubleshooting on the Raw Food Die… [...]

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