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	<title>Comments on: What is the &#8220;Optimal&#8221; Diet for Humans? (Part 2)</title>
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		<title>By: Teeks</title>
		<link>http://rawfoodsos.com/2010/03/18/what-is-the-optimal-diet-for-humans-part-2/#comment-12047</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Teeks]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Nov 2011 23:51:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks, great post!

However, I would like to get your insight about the &#039;living enzyme&#039; argument used by raw food proponents as another reason why a cooked food diet is bad for us. According to this argument, heating/cooking foods damage and kill the enzymes that help break down the food we consume into nutrients that our body can use. Without these food occurring enzymes our body has to use and therefore deplete its own store  of enzymes thereby weakening our immune system. 

Can you please shed some light?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, great post!</p>
<p>However, I would like to get your insight about the &#8216;living enzyme&#8217; argument used by raw food proponents as another reason why a cooked food diet is bad for us. According to this argument, heating/cooking foods damage and kill the enzymes that help break down the food we consume into nutrients that our body can use. Without these food occurring enzymes our body has to use and therefore deplete its own store  of enzymes thereby weakening our immune system. </p>
<p>Can you please shed some light?</p>
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		<title>By: Lance Strish</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lance Strish]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Sep 2011 12:43:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Corrected link: http://is.gd/L3fqg1 ‘kombucha.pdf’]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Corrected link: <a href="http://is.gd/L3fqg1" rel="nofollow">http://is.gd/L3fqg1</a> ‘kombucha.pdf’</p>
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		<title>By: Lance Strish</title>
		<link>http://rawfoodsos.com/2010/03/18/what-is-the-optimal-diet-for-humans-part-2/#comment-9872</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lance Strish]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Sep 2011 12:41:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here is the case study on Kombucha linked earlier in comments:
http://is.gd/Z0cDLS &#039;kombucha.pdf&#039;

And it also mentions &#039;Transaminitis has also been reported in a 53 year old male and a 83 year old male following daily ingestion of one half cup serving of Kombucha tea for 2 to 3 weeks. Liver enzymes returned to normal following cessation of tea consumption in both patients (4) More recently, Kombucha tea was implicated in the case of a patient with new onset anti-jo1antibody-positive myositis.(8)&#039;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is the case study on Kombucha linked earlier in comments:<br />
<a href="http://is.gd/Z0cDLS" rel="nofollow">http://is.gd/Z0cDLS</a> &#8216;kombucha.pdf&#8217;</p>
<p>And it also mentions &#8216;Transaminitis has also been reported in a 53 year old male and a 83 year old male following daily ingestion of one half cup serving of Kombucha tea for 2 to 3 weeks. Liver enzymes returned to normal following cessation of tea consumption in both patients (4) More recently, Kombucha tea was implicated in the case of a patient with new onset anti-jo1antibody-positive myositis.(8)&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: Plants and Animals - Castle Grok</title>
		<link>http://rawfoodsos.com/2010/03/18/what-is-the-optimal-diet-for-humans-part-2/#comment-8268</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Plants and Animals - Castle Grok]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Aug 2011 01:11:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] &#8220;less adapted&#8221; to eat them. I find this almost completely irrelevant. It&#8217;s true humans are better suited to eat more calorically dense foods. This could include all kinds of foods including fruit or starches! I do not consume a plant-based [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] &#8220;less adapted&#8221; to eat them. I find this almost completely irrelevant. It&#8217;s true humans are better suited to eat more calorically dense foods. This could include all kinds of foods including fruit or starches! I do not consume a plant-based [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Another Halocene Human</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Another Halocene Human]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Feb 2011 00:59:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Other primates do not eat only plants. In fact, there have been a lot of papers lately about the economics of meat distribution and consumption in chimpanzee communities. (Gorillas, otoh, eat mainly cellulosic plant matter, and their guts reflect this--see the chart Denise provided, above.)

Google &quot;bush babies&quot;. Primates eating primates!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Other primates do not eat only plants. In fact, there have been a lot of papers lately about the economics of meat distribution and consumption in chimpanzee communities. (Gorillas, otoh, eat mainly cellulosic plant matter, and their guts reflect this&#8211;see the chart Denise provided, above.)</p>
<p>Google &#8220;bush babies&#8221;. Primates eating primates!</p>
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		<title>By: Another Halocene Human</title>
		<link>http://rawfoodsos.com/2010/03/18/what-is-the-optimal-diet-for-humans-part-2/#comment-5531</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Another Halocene Human]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Feb 2011 00:56:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And yet we sent a manned rocket to the moon and back. Fueled by beef and bread, not forest fruits. Ye gods...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And yet we sent a manned rocket to the moon and back. Fueled by beef and bread, not forest fruits. Ye gods&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Another Halocene Human</title>
		<link>http://rawfoodsos.com/2010/03/18/what-is-the-optimal-diet-for-humans-part-2/#comment-5530</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Another Halocene Human]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Feb 2011 00:53:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good point about reproductive fitness. And there it seems cooking meat by whatever method for the last 200000 years has it over eating grains for 10000 or many fewer. Celiac disease in women causes infertility. (I guess that would select pretty strongly for a) early menarche and b) gluten tolerance in early-adopter-of-wheat/barley populations. Less luck for those groups who started on wheat much later.)

OTOH, grains == civilization. And you&#039;re prying my mac mini out of my cold, dead hands. :D]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good point about reproductive fitness. And there it seems cooking meat by whatever method for the last 200000 years has it over eating grains for 10000 or many fewer. Celiac disease in women causes infertility. (I guess that would select pretty strongly for a) early menarche and b) gluten tolerance in early-adopter-of-wheat/barley populations. Less luck for those groups who started on wheat much later.)</p>
<p>OTOH, grains == civilization. And you&#8217;re prying my mac mini out of my cold, dead hands. <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Another Halocene Human</title>
		<link>http://rawfoodsos.com/2010/03/18/what-is-the-optimal-diet-for-humans-part-2/#comment-5528</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Another Halocene Human]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Feb 2011 00:24:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was reading about potato toxins and apparently roasting them destroys the toxin, rendering them edible. (You can eat raw potato, but if they&#039;ve been exposed to sunlight, you might want to go for the inside unless you are angling for a date with a Poison Control officer.) Boiling is not so effective, which is probably why potatoes were peeled before boiling and mashed potatoes and potato salads did not have peel in them until more recently.

Weston Price studied Swiss peasants high in the Alps and found they ate a sort of sprouted rye bread. I believe this may be similar to the &quot;special&quot; rye which my German relatives used to buy imported at the holidays. It was dense, moist, and crumbled readily, unlike crusty bakery breads. (They also ate a lot of pastured butter and cream, which Price tested and found high in vitamins, which explained the good state of the children&#039;s teeth.) It may be that we just are exposed to much higher amounts of the bad stuff in bread than people in the past, accelerating the destruction of our digestive systems, just as a celiac may become lactose intolerant, not on account of genetics, but because of degeneration of their digestive organs as the disease progresses.

Greeks in the classical era boiled their meat. The elites in their society also enjoyed good life expectancy. Grilling and charring meat may be a mistake...

Industrial frying seems to cause chemical changes in food. I read a little about it and don&#039;t really understand, but it seems to change the nature of the starches. The industrial objective is to create a crunchier chip, but perhaps it becomes less digestible. My stomach will gladly eat fish or fries out of the fryolator, but fried &quot;tortilla&quot; chips* come right back up. Still learning...

*-Cannot actually get good info if these chips are made with masa or corn meal, except for Fritos. Fritos are made with wet masa, and I actually tolerate them well! (Also, some restaurants are now slipping wheat flour into their masa flour--WTF.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was reading about potato toxins and apparently roasting them destroys the toxin, rendering them edible. (You can eat raw potato, but if they&#8217;ve been exposed to sunlight, you might want to go for the inside unless you are angling for a date with a Poison Control officer.) Boiling is not so effective, which is probably why potatoes were peeled before boiling and mashed potatoes and potato salads did not have peel in them until more recently.</p>
<p>Weston Price studied Swiss peasants high in the Alps and found they ate a sort of sprouted rye bread. I believe this may be similar to the &#8220;special&#8221; rye which my German relatives used to buy imported at the holidays. It was dense, moist, and crumbled readily, unlike crusty bakery breads. (They also ate a lot of pastured butter and cream, which Price tested and found high in vitamins, which explained the good state of the children&#8217;s teeth.) It may be that we just are exposed to much higher amounts of the bad stuff in bread than people in the past, accelerating the destruction of our digestive systems, just as a celiac may become lactose intolerant, not on account of genetics, but because of degeneration of their digestive organs as the disease progresses.</p>
<p>Greeks in the classical era boiled their meat. The elites in their society also enjoyed good life expectancy. Grilling and charring meat may be a mistake&#8230;</p>
<p>Industrial frying seems to cause chemical changes in food. I read a little about it and don&#8217;t really understand, but it seems to change the nature of the starches. The industrial objective is to create a crunchier chip, but perhaps it becomes less digestible. My stomach will gladly eat fish or fries out of the fryolator, but fried &#8220;tortilla&#8221; chips* come right back up. Still learning&#8230;</p>
<p>*-Cannot actually get good info if these chips are made with masa or corn meal, except for Fritos. Fritos are made with wet masa, and I actually tolerate them well! (Also, some restaurants are now slipping wheat flour into their masa flour&#8211;WTF.)</p>
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		<title>By: Another Halocene Human</title>
		<link>http://rawfoodsos.com/2010/03/18/what-is-the-optimal-diet-for-humans-part-2/#comment-5527</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Another Halocene Human]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Feb 2011 00:07:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A good point to make here is that not only did meso- and North-American natives cook the maize, they processed it with a highly alkali ash solution to turn it into nixtamal (aka hominy). This process reduces the amount of zein (the corn &quot;gluten&quot;), enhances niacin (which prevents pellagra), destroys phytates (which chellate minerals), enhances digestibility (the amino acid balance is altered), and, depending on the type of ash or lime used, increases the calcium and/or potassium content of the corn.

When maize cultivation spread around the globe around 1900, populations who depended upon it who did not nixtamalize suffered pellagra outbreaks, including Northern Italy, South Africa, and the American South. (Ironically, Quaker brand grits, eaten throughout the South today, are nixtamalized. The pellagra victims were eating bread made from corn meal, which is unprocessed aside from milling.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A good point to make here is that not only did meso- and North-American natives cook the maize, they processed it with a highly alkali ash solution to turn it into nixtamal (aka hominy). This process reduces the amount of zein (the corn &#8220;gluten&#8221;), enhances niacin (which prevents pellagra), destroys phytates (which chellate minerals), enhances digestibility (the amino acid balance is altered), and, depending on the type of ash or lime used, increases the calcium and/or potassium content of the corn.</p>
<p>When maize cultivation spread around the globe around 1900, populations who depended upon it who did not nixtamalize suffered pellagra outbreaks, including Northern Italy, South Africa, and the American South. (Ironically, Quaker brand grits, eaten throughout the South today, are nixtamalized. The pellagra victims were eating bread made from corn meal, which is unprocessed aside from milling.)</p>
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		<title>By: Another Halocene Human</title>
		<link>http://rawfoodsos.com/2010/03/18/what-is-the-optimal-diet-for-humans-part-2/#comment-5526</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Another Halocene Human]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Feb 2011 23:55:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m glad you&#039;re happy on raw. Raw foods give me enormous stomach pain and bloating/gas which interrupts my sleep. Still trying to figure out my ideal diet. (Already figured out wheat is out, also I can&#039;t eat large quantities of unnixtamlized corn, ie corn meal, so no more arepas or corn bread for me (at least I have gorditas), and then there&#039;s a possible celery-carrot allergy. CRY!!!)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m glad you&#8217;re happy on raw. Raw foods give me enormous stomach pain and bloating/gas which interrupts my sleep. Still trying to figure out my ideal diet. (Already figured out wheat is out, also I can&#8217;t eat large quantities of unnixtamlized corn, ie corn meal, so no more arepas or corn bread for me (at least I have gorditas), and then there&#8217;s a possible celery-carrot allergy. CRY!!!)</p>
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