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		<title>By: Jessica</title>
		<link>http://rawfoodsos.com/2010/03/08/what-is-the-optimal-diet-for-humans-part/#comment-10324</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jessica]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Oct 2011 08:35:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I actually read that first sentence about 3 times then shrugged and figured he must have left out the &quot;never&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually read that first sentence about 3 times then shrugged and figured he must have left out the &#8220;never&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Ellis</title>
		<link>http://rawfoodsos.com/2010/03/08/what-is-the-optimal-diet-for-humans-part/#comment-6336</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ellis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 May 2011 10:32:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[OMG intelligent designers must scour the web looking for any scientific discussion to hijack with their wacky Christian ideas..please stick to the Baptist forums James]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OMG intelligent designers must scour the web looking for any scientific discussion to hijack with their wacky Christian ideas..please stick to the Baptist forums James</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://rawfoodsos.com/2010/03/08/what-is-the-optimal-diet-for-humans-part/#comment-5438</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[James]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jan 2011 02:35:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am quite a fan of the paleo diet -- except for the fact that many of the movement&#039;s leaders operate under the assumption that evolution actually happened.  (Personally, I think it&#039;s horrible science for us to base our research findings on an assumption of this magnitude).  I am all for modern scientific analysis of human health, but jumping to conclusions based on massive assumptions about our evolutionary past does not seem to be very scientific to me... at all.  (In the scientific world, I believe this is called having a &#039;bias&#039;).

Thankfully, not everyone in the paleo movement begins their research under the assumption that we all evolved from banana-eating monkeys.  And thankfully, there are now some videos online such as &quot;Unlocking the Mystery of Life&quot; that really help us to challenge this assumption.

Personally, I would like to see the paleo movement focus their energies on modern scientific health analysis, rather than wildly hypothetical discussions about evolutionary history.

Lastly, I wouldn&#039;t be writing this if I did not think Ms. Minger was intelligent enough to consider challenging her own assumptions.  (She certainly seems to be).   :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am quite a fan of the paleo diet &#8212; except for the fact that many of the movement&#8217;s leaders operate under the assumption that evolution actually happened.  (Personally, I think it&#8217;s horrible science for us to base our research findings on an assumption of this magnitude).  I am all for modern scientific analysis of human health, but jumping to conclusions based on massive assumptions about our evolutionary past does not seem to be very scientific to me&#8230; at all.  (In the scientific world, I believe this is called having a &#8216;bias&#8217;).</p>
<p>Thankfully, not everyone in the paleo movement begins their research under the assumption that we all evolved from banana-eating monkeys.  And thankfully, there are now some videos online such as &#8220;Unlocking the Mystery of Life&#8221; that really help us to challenge this assumption.</p>
<p>Personally, I would like to see the paleo movement focus their energies on modern scientific health analysis, rather than wildly hypothetical discussions about evolutionary history.</p>
<p>Lastly, I wouldn&#8217;t be writing this if I did not think Ms. Minger was intelligent enough to consider challenging her own assumptions.  (She certainly seems to be).   <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jan 2011 07:10:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Denise,

     You are amazing. Thank you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Denise,</p>
<p>     You are amazing. Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: Gary Katch</title>
		<link>http://rawfoodsos.com/2010/03/08/what-is-the-optimal-diet-for-humans-part/#comment-2113</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gary Katch]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Sep 2010 19:40:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, a beneficial mutation might take as little as 400 years, providing the selection pressure is huge.  After the African diaspora, people probably ate much like they were used to eating.  There was game to be had over the entire globe, judging how we wiped out a lot of it during our conquest of the planet.  Even since the advent of agriculture, people could still live long enough to reproduce on this suboptimal food, so where&#039;s the selection pressure?

Just saying there is plenty of time for adaptation says nothing about the actual degree of change, if any at all.

However, David is probably wise to follow modern science, since the ancestral diet will always be just a guess.  But I have similarly grown tired of the argument that every little human subpopulation has &quot;evolved&quot; to thrive on its unique local foods.  I think we&#039;re just not that different from one another.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, a beneficial mutation might take as little as 400 years, providing the selection pressure is huge.  After the African diaspora, people probably ate much like they were used to eating.  There was game to be had over the entire globe, judging how we wiped out a lot of it during our conquest of the planet.  Even since the advent of agriculture, people could still live long enough to reproduce on this suboptimal food, so where&#8217;s the selection pressure?</p>
<p>Just saying there is plenty of time for adaptation says nothing about the actual degree of change, if any at all.</p>
<p>However, David is probably wise to follow modern science, since the ancestral diet will always be just a guess.  But I have similarly grown tired of the argument that every little human subpopulation has &#8220;evolved&#8221; to thrive on its unique local foods.  I think we&#8217;re just not that different from one another.</p>
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		<title>By: David I</title>
		<link>http://rawfoodsos.com/2010/03/08/what-is-the-optimal-diet-for-humans-part/#comment-2111</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David I]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Sep 2010 17:30:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;If true, then your argument that we are adapted to various diets because we inhabited vastly different areas doesn’t hold. That only happened after the African exodus about 50,000 years ago. There really hasn’t been much time for genetic change since then.&quot;

I do love the way that people assert this without any proof and without doing any math. 

If you mean our whole genome can&#039;t change much in 50,000 (or 250,000 years), you&#039;re correct. It isn&#039;t that much different from a chimpanzee&#039;s, which is an imortant point--a handful of changes can make huge differences.

Ned Kock has a nice little calculation about how quickly a beneficial genetic mutation can spread through a population, and it could be as short as 400 years. He even has a nice spreadsheet for you to play with the numbers. ( http://healthcorrelator.blogspot.com/2010/01/how-long-does-it-take-for-food-related.html ).

I&#039;m really tired of the argument that evolution can only adapt us to dietary changes over huge time spans--which inevitiably leads to arguments about what our ancestors really ate. The evidence on what they ate is lousy, and we&#039;ll never really know; it turns into something that smacks of religion very quickly. 

But it doesn&#039;t matter, because there has been plenty of time for us to adapt. The idealized caveman diet might not even be good for us--perhaps we&#039;ve lost some adaptations they had. We just don&#039;t know. 

I base my dietary decisions on modern science, not conjectural paleoarchaeology. The modern science is confusing enough on its own.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If true, then your argument that we are adapted to various diets because we inhabited vastly different areas doesn’t hold. That only happened after the African exodus about 50,000 years ago. There really hasn’t been much time for genetic change since then.&#8221;</p>
<p>I do love the way that people assert this without any proof and without doing any math. </p>
<p>If you mean our whole genome can&#8217;t change much in 50,000 (or 250,000 years), you&#8217;re correct. It isn&#8217;t that much different from a chimpanzee&#8217;s, which is an imortant point&#8211;a handful of changes can make huge differences.</p>
<p>Ned Kock has a nice little calculation about how quickly a beneficial genetic mutation can spread through a population, and it could be as short as 400 years. He even has a nice spreadsheet for you to play with the numbers. ( <a href="http://healthcorrelator.blogspot.com/2010/01/how-long-does-it-take-for-food-related.html" rel="nofollow">http://healthcorrelator.blogspot.com/2010/01/how-long-does-it-take-for-food-related.html</a> ).</p>
<p>I&#8217;m really tired of the argument that evolution can only adapt us to dietary changes over huge time spans&#8211;which inevitiably leads to arguments about what our ancestors really ate. The evidence on what they ate is lousy, and we&#8217;ll never really know; it turns into something that smacks of religion very quickly. </p>
<p>But it doesn&#8217;t matter, because there has been plenty of time for us to adapt. The idealized caveman diet might not even be good for us&#8211;perhaps we&#8217;ve lost some adaptations they had. We just don&#8217;t know. </p>
<p>I base my dietary decisions on modern science, not conjectural paleoarchaeology. The modern science is confusing enough on its own.</p>
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		<title>By: theirishbelle</title>
		<link>http://rawfoodsos.com/2010/03/08/what-is-the-optimal-diet-for-humans-part/#comment-1321</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[theirishbelle]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Aug 2010 00:52:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow! Great piece!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow! Great piece!</p>
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		<title>By: Gary Katch</title>
		<link>http://rawfoodsos.com/2010/03/08/what-is-the-optimal-diet-for-humans-part/#comment-808</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gary Katch]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jul 2010 16:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Bottom line: during the two million years we’ve been human (or human-ish), we’ve never eaten a single consistent diet.&quot;

The split between human and chimp ancestors was about 6 million years ago.  During this time, our guts were forged in a relatively small area of Africa.  Genetically modern humans appeared about 250,000 years ago, and they were still in Africa.

If true, then your argument that we are adapted to various diets because we inhabited vastly different areas doesn&#039;t hold.  That only happened after the African exodus about 50,000 years ago.  There really hasn&#039;t been much time for genetic change since then.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Bottom line: during the two million years we’ve been human (or human-ish), we’ve never eaten a single consistent diet.&#8221;</p>
<p>The split between human and chimp ancestors was about 6 million years ago.  During this time, our guts were forged in a relatively small area of Africa.  Genetically modern humans appeared about 250,000 years ago, and they were still in Africa.</p>
<p>If true, then your argument that we are adapted to various diets because we inhabited vastly different areas doesn&#8217;t hold.  That only happened after the African exodus about 50,000 years ago.  There really hasn&#8217;t been much time for genetic change since then.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jay]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jul 2010 06:55:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Then one day, someone started cooking and the whole world went to sh**.&quot;
Fu***** hilarious!!  Thanks for the laugh Denise...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Then one day, someone started cooking and the whole world went to sh**.&#8221;<br />
Fu***** hilarious!!  Thanks for the laugh Denise&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: hiyaa</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[hiyaa]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jul 2010 00:05:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[For First Time, Chimps Seen Making Weapons for Hunting
&quot;Our closest genetic relatives don’t eat meat—or if they do, it’s for social reasons and not nutrition&quot;

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/02/22/AR2007022201007.html

What about daily consumption of insects as well...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For First Time, Chimps Seen Making Weapons for Hunting<br />
&#8220;Our closest genetic relatives don’t eat meat—or if they do, it’s for social reasons and not nutrition&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/02/22/AR2007022201007.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/02/22/AR2007022201007.html</a></p>
<p>What about daily consumption of insects as well&#8230;</p>
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